The Joe Rogan Experience hey Derek you know how I got so jacked oh I followed the nine ancestral tenants oh that I heard that worked really well it's the best way yeah boy when I saw that video that you posted you actually sent me the video after I'd already seen it I I caught it like within three minutes of you posting it oh my God I saw it it just showed up on YouTube feed I'm like oh yes here we go and uh wasn't surprised at all no I mean it's all it seems completely makes sense but that's exactly what I expected yeah it seemed like just a matter of time for him there's no way you can look like that in your 40s that chat I mean he's preposterously jacked do we have a fucking now that we know that he's full of shit we're talking about the liver King by the way ladies and gentlemen a lot of people like what are they saying this is all inside yeah there's a guy if you don't know who the liver King is the guy calls himself the liver King and he's this guy who uh walks around everywhere with no shirt on I've seen him in Vegas with no shirt on big bushy beard super jacked and he was telling people that the way he gets that way is by sunning his balls he uh he he literally really lays down with his asshole staring at the sun and eats raw liver and just lifts like a maniac and that's how he's so jacked but it's Preposterous yeah too many polar extremes to have just like a unique marketing spin that was just highly viral in my opinion and I don't know I think most people could see through it but at the same time he would like there was a lot of big names that even reached out to me after the video came out and they were like you know I didn't think he was natural but this guy literally right to my face would say like blatantly I am natural and like a lot of people will take a guy that's word at his word when it's like a private conversation and if he's straight up telling you in person yeah it's actually legit I'm natural and he was just lying through his fucking teeth seemingly there's some people that are really jacked that are natural for sure some people that are like super super disciplined they um you know they're taking supplements but all legal supplements that you can get it like a vitamin store and they're just like they've never gotten off the grind and who's that guy Paul sklar did you comment on him yeah yeah he actually uh did blood work like immediately after I had talked about it one time and it checked out yeah he looks like what's possible yeah like I If you don't know who that guy is he's super jacked and he's 50 years old but and when I'm looking at him I'm not getting any like steroidy Vibes I'm getting a really fit guy who works out really hard and has probably been doing it for 30 years yeah that's that's what I get when I look at that guy that's all feasible and possible now please go to the liver King please show me some Preposterous liver King physiology oh he has uh have you seen his apology no I haven't I want to watch it he comes clean on steroids you I fucked up I don't know I don't know if you guys are able to watch these images though I want to see some images of his body because his body is just so off the charts ridiculously massive yeah yeah I want to I want to show some of him like jacked and lifting because he's just fucking gigantic so he did Cover the ab implants and etching again he said no to both even in his apology touches on it is it I mean I guess it's possible if you're on that much juice that your ab muscles grow that big too because the kind of stuff he does is you know very core specific like he's doing a lot of stuff where he's like cleaning and pressing kettlebells and walking with them over his head and all that stuff really does ignite your core and if he's doing that all the time I'd imagine it's possible that those are real ABS but that was the question do you think those are real abs um yeah personally I think they're legitimate ABS and the the etching thing I think is more of the controversial topic did he have some sort of like cosmetic work done to Target locally in the fat around the abdominal you know definition would that make much of a difference though because he's very lean clearly if you look at his arms you look at his chest you look at everything like look at that image right there he's so lean I mean how much fat would you even be talking about and how would that make the the thing is the topographical map of his his abs the way they pop up like mountains that's just Mass yeah that's where the question of whether or not that's real or whether or not they're implants that's what I was leaning to is just like I feel like his overall body composition is pretty consistently represented I don't think he has like this like I get that his the argument is they don't change in uh like when he sits down or anything the density of them and like the separation is so dramatic that it's got to be something yeah and you know you could never really say if it was well done like what did or didn't happen I don't think it's implants so that would be really obvious in my opinion well granted then it's like well if it's unnoticeable would you even right you know right it's like plastic surgery you only see the stuff that's not good are you guys able to play the apology without it being caught sure yeah we can play it first come after us I don't know what like the Spotify copyright oh listen I think Spotify can handle this okay by the YouTube version because let's play it put a little bit up on it yeah if you put it on YouTube you're more than allowed to here it goes liver King confession let's open a terrible sound try again is it a connection issue Maybe yeah hmm weird that's happened before what is that I don't know a lot of people believed him including the Bell Brothers Chris and Mark Bell I'm like wow guys you do steroids how do you how do you not look at that guy and go clearly I think Mark likes to think that a lot of people like he again he doesn't want to put a is it working right like a limitation on what's possible like he likes to believe that you could and again because this the problem with this too is a lot of people will extrapolate this out and then thank everyone with a jacked physique must be doing something which is problematic because then it sort of creates this right this narrative around you know everyone's lying or anyone with a good physique it's impossible to get there without yeah doping your fucking face off kind of thing which is not the case there are certain individuals who like I do believe that physique okay maybe not maybe not that physique but like within Striking Distance of that in 0.0001 percent of individuals you could get there naturally yeah potentially hyper responders yeah guys who are just like ridiculous genetics like Ronnie Coleman natural yes yeah perfect example yeah Ronnie Coleman natural was super jacked but he couldn't compete with the most Jack guys and then he started doing steroids yeah then he just exploded but he's super honest about it like when Ronnie talks about it he just will explain like up until he was 30 years old he was natural yeah so can we get it okay I've got a little sounds yeah maybe there's another version of it I think there's something wrong with my cable for some reason I'm looking at the audio on my feed and it's not is it the cable or is it how it connects is it like it's one of the other it's but it could be both that's an old ass laptop isn't it no it's a new one oh okay old cable Maybe yeah it's quiet I don't know something's wrong that's all right let's play we can hear what he's saying uh all right I'm making this video to apologize fucked up because I'm embarrassed and ashamed because I lied and I misled a lot of people I've stated that this is a complicated as fuck Topic at least to me it is because before social media I was rich and Anonymous and after social media I'm still rich but no longer Anonymous and I never expected this kind of exposure in the public eye it's been tricky as fuck to navigate well clearly I did it wrong and I'm here now to set the record straight yes I've done steroids and yes I'm on steroids hormone clinician uh never came to public figure was an experiment to spread the message to bring awareness to the 4 000 people a day who killed themselves that 80 000 people a day that try to kill themselves our people are hurting at record rates with depression autoimmune anxiety infertility low ambition in life our young men are hurting them both feeling lost weak and submissive so I made it my job until I will teach him he did it for the hurting people come on Derek the comments are not too favorable on that part of the video this is my fight this is why I exist pause your highest and most dominant form what he that he wanted everybody that's depressed and trying to kill themselves to reach their highest most dominant form but he wanted to lie about how he achieved his physique so mislead these people they just by eating liver you can come close to that so as you fail at that as well as everything else you failed at life that led you to the point of doing something to yourself that you're thinking about committing suicide yeah like that's what he's saying I feel like in this video he had like a very good opportunity to just straight up say sorry I fucked up Etc which I think he thought he was doing but he also makes a few little comments in there that I feel like people really dug in on like the whole I didn't expect it to happen this or me to blow up this much it's like it was very meticulously planned out from inception of the brand within this I don't know if you saw the emails but it's like within one one year I want to be at exactly this in social media following and this is what I'm gonna do what's his social media following at now Jamie which is like uh Instagram I bet he's at 5 million I think on Tick Tock 1.7 million on Tick Tock he's at like three point something million yeah half of its Chinese Bots maybe all right let's play some more of this nonsense yeah it's spreading the message I've been on several podcasts and when asked if I'd ever taken steroids I've always said no I don't touch this stuff not gonna touch the stuff never touch the stuff I've convinced myself that this had nothing to do with the ancestral message I convinced myself that I'm not a competitive athlete of any kind so who the fuck am I cheating I convinced myself that this topic was a placeholder for a far more important conversation I convinced myself that this would overshadow that 36 years of working out usually twice a day without that's not true I've convinced myself that this was the book of minority usually in the fitness category driving to an unproductive conversation and I had convinced myself that this would be the wrong message to send to the 15 year old boys oh the 15 year old boys continually dismissed it the ones who actually can get jacked it's difficult we've we've seen enough he's you know what the problem is sometimes people don't hang out with people that are smarter than them and you think you're the smartest person or maybe because he's running this company you know people have to listen to him so he's got this distorted perception of his ability to communicate and his ability to like convince people like that was so theatrical and so corny I don't know how like what kind of thought process went into there there was some sort of Roi calculation on if I lie like what is the probability I get outed versus how viral can I go if I lie from the get-go versus like I just don't know how his team especially with the information out there thought that it was going to be a net win where it's probably never going to come out does he have a team I yeah it's pretty elaborate like his team was uh well he has a media team that he hired to kind of like right but they're just employees one of them came up to me in Vegas oh really yeah one of my security guards stopped him he was like I'm a producer for the liver King I'm like Purdue what the fuck do you produce what are you producing yeah I wouldn't be surprised it's not a movie like how many UFC events did he try and kind of like cozy he was Frontline front row at one of my shows in Vegas oh damn at the MGM yeah and then I saw him again at the Canelo fight he was trying really hard to get on the podcast and he's been trying really hard to get on now he uh contacted contacted a few friends of mine and some of them that have like Bert Kreischer that had him on the show yeah he told me he's trying to get on for what what say that more like come on this is dumb man this is a fucking uranicon game and you got busted yeah and it's unfortunate that you feel terrible I'm sorry you feel bad because that's just what happens when you get caught lying but you didn't have to lie yeah like I don't even see how bad it would have been from the get-go he was like I you know it's not the healthy replacement yeah but like I I understand the not wanting to talk about the other shit because he was on Winstrol deck yeah high amounts of GH Etc which is not ancestrally consistent but neither is HRT because it's like well right if your diet was so dialed like why is it that you don't have like adequate testicular function or adequate hormone output or this or that and it's just like I guess it kind of just like spit in the face of his message too much that he couldn't wrap his head around justifying yeah coming out and saying I'm on a chart seat but do this other stuff
