hello derek hey how's it going nice to meet you in real life yeah i've seen uh ah man fucking dozens of your videos so uh it's cool meeting you in person no yeah long overdue how did you get started um for me i've always sort of just been like a nerd about pharmacology and biology endocrinology stuff like that and i've always just researched online about random stuff and eventually i was encouraged by a few people to start posting online and i was uh i just started writing up blog articles on a wordpress site maybe like five and a half years ago or something at this point and eventually it got to the point where i guess youtube was already big but it wasn't that what it is now and i was just asking people in the i don't know male self-improvement niche that i was friends with do you think i should be posting videos too instead of just writing these articles and they said yeah it's a no-brainer you should be so i just started basically reiterating my articles in video format too and then eventually the youtube sort of outpaced the wordpress site and that's why it's always you know derek from mooreplaymondays.com that website was where i originally wrote my articles and that eventually got to the point where it wasn't very time efficient to write unfortunately so i kind of like moved disproportionately towards video format because i can just fire off a video in i don't know 15 minutes that otherwise that in written format would take five plus hours to write out if not longer well i love the fact that you have like your production is very minimalist you have an air conditioner behind you a wood panel wall it's like there's no attempt at all to like glitz and glamour but it's just good content yeah i mean you just hit a million subscribers so obviously something it's working you know it's working well but it's what you're doing is just you you have a unique ability to pull information out of the air like you you remember stuff like how things work and how things you know like how especially when you you're talking about catching people that are doing steroids yeah like when like there's been many times you've gone over people's blood work and it's very educational i learned a lot about it especially like before i watched your videos i thought oh usada like there's no way anybody can cheat with usada around and then i watch some of your videos i'm like oh my god they're cheating yeah it's not like they make it obvious where their shortcomings are and where the loopholes are because they would obviously prefer people to not know what they're doing current research on to tighten up but yeah there's definitely leeway still or else they would not still be in the lab trying to figure out ways to bulletproof it essentially well there's one gym that i know of that at one point in time i don't know how they do it now but at one point in time they had like literally full-time scientists that were working with the athletes no yeah i think a lot of athletes have maybe not like a full team but there's always there's usually some sort of chemistry pharmacology guy in the back end who they're deferring to or even just their bro is experienced enough yeah but the brows is what how people get caught bro you just gotta do this you're gonna testify and trust me and then you test positive and that guy is fucked and yeah yeah yeah i think usually there's uh some sort of i don't know deferral to figure out like even people who anybody at a top level is trying to figure out what kind of edge they can get regardless if it's through straight supplementation dietary practice manipulations lifestyle interventions etc and obviously the conversation at some point comes up is like what's not on the list that i could get away with right or is there a way to get around or what are the other people in my sport doing that i don't know about and if other people are doing something you're going to you know it's not as dramatic as the lance armstrong case where everyone's doing it right so you're pretty much forced to do it to be competitive but you know people are thinking in that same the lance armstrong one is the most ridiculous to me because they took his jerseys away supposedly but he still has them you know he's like there's a photo of him it's a hilarious photo of him on his couch like with his feet up and behind him as all these framed jerseys of him winning the tour de france yeah and it's like we can do take my jerseys i fucking won those bitches like and he did win them he did fuck everybody even you know pretty much everyone underneath him is doing the same thing 18th place was the last guy that you could find that did not test possibly and even that guy though he might have just got it out of his system in time because probably they're still trying to figure out how to detect epo use blood transfusions autologous you can't detect right now at all except for aberrations in your hematology that can kind of like infer based on longitudinal data that something's off and they can assert that you're doping and right putting blood back into yourself but they can't they still can't even tell right yeah yeah well that's why they try to use the biological passport right like they try to get a baseline of you at random times over a course of several months and then they get in and they understand like what your normal levels are yeah but even that varies with sleep and diet and you've got to build up the data so if you're hypothetically an athlete who understands how this process works going into it it's not very hard to go to lab corp get my own hematology panel assess my reticulocyte hemoglobin red blood cell count over time develop my own longitudinal biological passport before i go into a tested sport and see do i fall within the you know threshold cutoffs where i would not get caught for my degree of autologous blood transfusions so hypothetically i could just i could go in quite confidently if i had done the preliminary research prior and if you're doing something like tour de france of course you're gonna do that research they have they had teams behind them yeah did you see icarus yep that's a fucking great documentary yeah yeah god damn it's so good it's so good when you realize that the entire russian olympic team was juiced to the tits yeah the whole team yeah everybody that guy gregory he said the only people that it didn't benefit was the figure skaters so they didn't do it to the figure skaters well i would bet the figure skaters were still doing stuff that might just not be on the banned list yet or might might be now who knows because even like 2000 i think it was 2000 when were the summer olympics it was like 2008 2000 4 8 and 12 or something like that they've retested like since they've developed some of these long-term metabolite assays they've been able to go back and retroactively catch i think it was like 150 athletes that otherwise didn't get caught at the time and this was over six years later and then of those 150 that's just a ballpark number it's not accurate but it was like 79 i think were medalists and they they figured that out six years later uh well whenever the the host country wins like a shitload of metals that's when it all gets weird like sochi that was a big one with russia and then beijing the chinese one was a big one they had won so many medals yeah and you know you know that it's it's it's such a big thing for some nations like to win the olympics yeah it's a huge show of superiority yeah and they go all out man now what's that uh have you ever heard of the um i think it's like the goldman dilemma or something where it's like if you were to die in five years or win gold for your country what would you take and it was like over 50 percent of athletes said die in five years and take the and take the win versus you know live a normal life yeah fucking wild well they in their head it's everything yeah i mean to lose is so painful and to win is so glorious that they'll just take it yeah and in professional sports obviously the contracts are so ridiculous like there was one nba player who just popped for draw standalone and testosterone like a week and a half ago or something and when you actually look at it the guy has only played i think in totality like seven minutes on the court or something but his contract is like almost eight million dollars so even guys at the highest level of professional sports it's so lucrative the amount of money that's on the table that if you think even if you're you know like a low tier like you're still a top tier athlete obviously if you're in the nba for example but if you're at the bottom of the totem pole and you think you have leeway with you're not going to get tested as much or whatever the choices of drugs he used too were like one of them was absurd and made no sense but i assume he was just hedging against the chance that he would get randomly tested to you know if it helps you get this lucrative contract even if you're like just a seven minute court player yeah like it's a big fucking deal well it's probably the the guys who get caught doing something stupid it's probably some dude from the gym right maybe somebody from the gym tells them how to do things they're not being sophisticated about it especially he's not a top-tier athlete he's just kind of a guy who plays occasionally yeah yeah i've heard in arm wrestling it's like a more obscure sport obviously but some of them are drug tested the scrutiny is very low but some of them don't even they just take whatever they want and go sauce to the tits and ass just hope they won't get tested like that's their strategy yeah so like they take whatever the fuck they want and just hedge against the probability that they won't get tested and then if they get lucky which a lot of the times they do because it's very low scrutiny testing they just go in like full board yeah well the ufc um and mixed martial arts in general is a very interesting sport because uh from that perspective because it started out all juice like it started out literally like most of the athletes were on something it was you know you'd have to be a real rebel to not be on juice like the the rare bj penn type guy who was like just a super athlete who just didn't need anything he fought natural but so many of those guys were on jews so many like if you go back and look at them if you go back and look at like ufc three four and five like everybody looked like a superhero no vitor was insane when he first started that like uh the fight where he i forget it was against van der ley he just ran him across the ring yeah that epic shot yeah he was fucking cranked yeah well so was vandella back then too yeah but the physiques yeah like disproportionately bodybuilder-esque right well vitor one point time was 240 pounds and then he eventually got in the ufc was competing at middleweight which is 185 pounds damn so like yeah that he's pretty juiced up there but if you go to vitor versus randy couture that was a fight where he lost where his body was so big his trap started at the top of his head yeah yeah and he was he was fucking enormous is that vitor versus randy that might be the second fight i think that is the ufc light heavyweight title right there yeah you want that that one in the upper right next to your cursor go up yeah right there that's him he was look how big he is he was fucking huge that one he was like 240. his arms were gigantic but he gassed out quick and randy was a superior wrestler that was back when you could wear shoes like randy's wearing wrestling shoes that's old school ufc like that was uh early early on and there was no testing there was nothing no you had guys like mark coleman showing up looking like just jacked mark kerr was even bigger than mark coleman mark marker the smashing machine have you ever seen that documentary no i haven't very good documentary it's an amazing documentary because it was in like icarus in the sense that the way if you haven't seen icarus first bro folks brian fogle the guy who's the director of it is also a star of it and what happened was brian who is uh an athlete and he does bike races he decided as a cyclist it would be interesting if he did a race natural and then did the same race the next year juice to the tits yeah and so he did the race natural documented it all and then hired this guy gregory rachenkoff and gregory was the head of the russian anti-doping agency which is not real yeah the russian anti-doping agency is the russian we dope everybody agency and so gregory talked um brian through the protocol told him what to take how to take it i don't know if he supplied him with it i don't really remember that but along the way the russians get busted in the sochi olympics gregory has to flee the country and then rats out the entire russian olympic team and now he's got a hit out on him so he's hiding in america and still is he's under witness protection he's got 24-hour armed guards around him all the time and you know someone from russia apparently is looking to kill him yeah so this poor guy's wandering around well the smashing machine is like that in that what they were doing was they were studying mark coleman or excuse me mark kerr when he was at the peak of his popularity in pride and marker was a fucking gorilla look at him there my god he's just enormous wrestler super powerful guy just fucking smash the shit out of people but when um they start filming this documentary he is falling apart like they catch him falling apart he's addicted to pain medication so he's shooting up and he's doing it right in front of the documentary crew he's yeah he's just like out of his mind he's doing steroids he's doing painkillers he's just completely addicted and you see everything collapsed like they caught it right at the right time right when the cameras got to him was right when it was all falling apart and it's a fascinating documentary and that was in the japan days of pride where not only were there no testing but they literally write it on the contract yeah they literally write on the contract we will not test you for steroids ensign anyway who fought over there told me they wrote it in all caps we will not fight we will not test you for steroids and so this documentary is like the gold standard uh documented for mma um like fighters like that were substance abusers there's so many of them they were so hooked on steroids there were so many of these guys and then usada came along and then their physiques just melted yeah but not all of them like some guys figured shit out yeah yeah some were pretty dramatic like johnny hendricks fell apart yeah vitor fell apart veto was the most dramatic yeah yeah he's usually like the poster boy for yeah yeah yeah yeah he was uh he was the guy that was probably responsible for them getting rid of the trt program the trt program was very controversial because the whole idea behind it was some of these guys need testosterone just like anything else like thyroid medication we're just gonna give it to them but the problem is like why do they need testosterone why does a 26 year old man have low testosterone yeah well the reality is a lot of them were on juice and so their natural endocrine system shuts down and then they get tested during that time period they go oh my god this poor guy he needs medicine yeah and so you give him testosterone and vitor like whatever the natural level was vitor was at hyperhuman levels to the point where they were worried he was going to die yeah something a lot of people don't consider about trt2 that goes overlooked when it comes to these tues is even if you're within the natural reference range like he was pushing it to super physiologic levels that's why you know he was getting more scrutiny too but even if he kept his levels at like 700 nanograms per deciliter and that's like a normal level that's like a chronic bleed of hormone you're getting all day that's not gonna dip based on diurnal rhythm it's not gonna dip based on shitty sleep based on excessive training based on weight cutting lack of substrate for actually producing the hormones and nutrition while you're weight cutting aggressively fucking anything it just stays chronically at 700 the entire time whereas like a natural who has 700 would be like 700 in the morning it goes down to like 500 600 blah blah blah yeah and obviously when you're weight cutting aggressively if you're a guy who loses i don't know 30 40 50 pounds in a matter of you know a few months to make weight for a uh event obviously your test levels are going to go in the gutter too but then you maintain that that entire time your performance metrics obviously stay far better and also you get a disproportionate drop in shpg which spikes your free test to a level that otherwise would never be achievable explain that so like there's testosterone that's bound to albumin and shpg which is your total test like what does shbg stand for sex hormone binding globulin okay so it's like a binding protein that regulates how much hormone is like freely in circulation to get to target tissues so if you have a higher shbg you have less free testosterone that actually is available to do activity you know like do you know all the things that testosterone does in the brain and the muscle etc so if you have this drop in shbg from exogenous administration of testosterone you get a disproportionate rise in your free test because there's less of this binding protein to hold on to it and when you get that disproportionate rise in free tea you get more psychoactive activity aggression muscle building there's a reason why guys on trt i guarantee you hold more muscle than they would have otherwise at the same level on paper of a total t with natural levels makes sense yeah and is there a way that i mean there's there's they use carbon isotope tests to detect uh exogenous testosterone right yeah and that's that detects testosterone that's coming from wild yams right yeah it's kind of ironic how testosterone commercial grade is derived from soy which is like the complete fucking opposite of what comes to soy it comes from like yam stigmastral um i forgot all the like it's basically like soy derived ultimately at the end of the day yeah it's like mexican yams and it's like all these the way they react it down it comes from i think the current way to do it is soy which is just interesting because that's like the last thing you would think makes testosterone well soy boy is like that is the the worst insult for someone yeah so this um this carbon isotope test which detects wild yemen so they figured out a way to extract testosterone from animal sources um because i know that that was theoretical commercial grade testosterone like the stuff you get from a pharmacy for your trt is all derived from the soy derived so the carbon isotope of it the ratio of it is indicative of like plant derived testosterone so when you do a carbon isotope ratio test and you combust it down and you see what kind of like carbon content is in it when you're checking the urine you see it disproportionately um the carbon 13 to carbon 12 ratio is disproportionately in flavor of favor of plant derived testosterone to a point where there's no way a human could produce this through like endogenous steroidogenesis from cholesterol so if you hypothetically wanted to skirt around this test if you had animal derived cholesterol and you reacted it down you could hypothetically get a human looking derived testosterone that's completely immune to detection through the carbon isotope ratio test now is that just theoretical is or is that a bit has that been achieved well it's not like i could pull it's not like you would ever be able to get that from a commercial company that's going to provide it to you but hypothetically if you got i know from like a medical supply company you've got animal grade testosterone or i mean cholesterol and then you had a chemist who you hired because you're you know an athlete who has access to the resources available to pay somebody to do this and you had the lab equipment you could hypothetically manually take that cholesterol and react it down all the way down to testosterone just like your body would endogenously and then once you have that you have testosterone that's been derived from animal based cholesterol that has a carbon isotope ratio equivalent to that of what looks to be animal derived rather than plant and then it kind of like gets around that system has that been done um i believe so yeah really yeah but this is not like there's no papers on this they're not gonna say this is being done and this is how you do it rabbit is i was wondering like i wonder who like is this something the soviets have done or the russians have done is this something i think athletes in all sports i don't i don't think it's prevalent like especially in the ufc some of the people who get caught even at like high-level fighters like t.j dilshaw he use recombinant epo which is highly detectable if you're looking for it so even the highest level of fighters i don't necessarily think have access to the resources to hire these chemists necessarily or even think to do this kind of stuff but ultimately i do think at a very high level there are individuals doing this yeah i think this individual is doing it too i just wondering if it's been proven that it can be done nowitzki jeff naviski from usada was the first person to tell me about it but his take on it was like we don't really know no i don't think there's if you can literally take a fucking yam and turn it into test i can 100 i cannot imagine it's impossible to take actual you know human identical cholesterol which is literally what your body uses to make tests and react that down like that's way to me it makes more sense how you get test out of that than out of a random plant yeah that doesn't make more sense and you got to think like out of all the stuff that china does one of the things they do is these concentration camps they take these they have these prisoner camps and you know the people that did wrong speak or whatever and they shuffle them off there yeah i would imagine i mean the the dark rumor was always like that's where you're getting some organ transplants that some people would go over there get organ transplants yeah you gotta think they're making testosterone that way too just using people as like a fucking sponge to drain out maybe yeah i wouldn't be surprised if there are countries doing it athletes at a high level in the ufc perhaps as well as in professional sports in general didn't john jones block you i don't think he likes me what did you uh what did you do well i guess it's just i've made a few videos just dissecting his case and giving my opinion on what i think he did and i don't he just doesn't like it obviously because it's just bringing up shit that is in his past that he doesn't want dug up i guess this is the stuff about the drug testing yeah because there was that whole debacle with the uh you know the pulsing and the terrible metabolite yeah what's your take on that um personally i think that if you go back historically to the beginning like obviously the guy is pretty loose on what he's willing to do in terms of you know substances yeah so with him um if you go back to his first positive test results i believe he tested positive for clomiphene and letrozole way back in like 2016 or something so if you look at those two drugs one of them is an aromatase inhibitor that you would use to prevent gynoformation usually and then clomid is like a fertility drug you would use to restore testosterone production or in women use it to aid infertility so using those two drugs back then to me seemed like something you would be doing to either you know prevent the gyno from what you were using at a time when it was less scrutinous perhaps and then the clomid you know to recover or something was tainted as what his claim was but we already have you know history of him doing this or getting popped for something pretty stupid to get popped for way back in you know 2015 2016 era approximately after that he test positive for tyrannoball and then thereafter the pulsing but the thing that's interesting about that is when nowitzki talks about this pulsing m3 metabolite he refers to well it's not him he's just reiterating the research and it's ultimately they use this reference point of clomid pulsing as a kind of a proxy to exemplify look here's a drug that stores itself in fat tissue and pulses over time so they use clomid as an example of a because they can't just give a a human a shit ton of tyrannoball and like trying to figure out if this is going to work or not so they give them this fertility drug or they've looked in the data and found to parse out this information about clomid pulsing and they use that as a reference point for like look there's a drug that can pulse over time but the interesting thing is jon jones literally popped for clomid before but he's never had that pulse so he has this tyrannoball that keeps paul saying but the clomid they use as the reference point of a drug that can pulse never pulsed for him but didn't he say that the clomid was from tainted food yeah but he still got it in a system so it's like if you ingested clomid why is that not pulsing so what causes something to pulse explain pulsing to people that don't know what we're talking about like the idea would be that metabolites of these hormones like first of all with tyrannoball after icarus came out and like shortly around that the rod shankoff is the one who came up with the m3 metabolite test and like extended the detection window of turinball and that's actually when i mentioned the summer olympics and how many people retroactively got their metal stripped or they got popped for the summer olympics for like 12 years in totality a lot of those positive test results for were for to ruinable after they used rod chenkov's data to like retroactively test the urine samples and see they thought at the time it was undetectable because they got out of their system based on the current detection windows but then when rod shankoff came out with his he came out with his data and when they went back and tested it using his assay you could figure out oh past that date they actually detected for that you know the longer term metabolites so the the idea between behind the pulsing is these metabolites that linger they can store themselves in like fat tissue essentially and they can like liberate themselves over time sporadically has that been proven or is that theoretical yeah and it was proven in clomid data which is interesting because jon jones literally has plot for clomid but didn't pulse for that yeah but it hasn't been proven before with this stuff no it's a rainbow never so what's your take on that like i think personally um like the amount of turin ball he had was so small a lot of times like for certain compounds like tarinibal the only way you're gonna get it is like underground like you're gonna get it it's not a pharmaceutical product that's designed for like a clinical application so you're gonna get it designed by an underground lab who sells steroids to you know random bodybuilders or a chemist in you know china or something and you're kind of just banking on the fact that it's not going to be tainted they're going to use like clean equipment it's going to be whatever drug you're hoping to get and there are a lot of different scenarios that might you know explain it and there's different theories like i could have that could hypothetically either one could be true potentially but i think one of the options is a drug he thought he was getting that was potentially undetectable was tainted with turinabol or he thought he could get around the detection window by taking it unaware of rod chance of long-term data that came out or there's like a variety of different things that could be happening but ultimately for him he got in his system and on paper when you look at his testosterone levels and his ratios of testosterone and epi testosterone like when he fought dc they were so out of whack that it would not be explainable in my opinion by anything other than some sort of suppression of your system via the usage of something so to me not not hard training because hard training does suppress it right yeah but to the degree where he's literally like a female probably not so he's really it was that bad yeah so normally the levels would be over 10 times what he had in general i'd have to pull it up to remember exactly but he was like in the single digits for urinary testosterone which otherwise should be like it was like 60 60 plus or something he was like four or something and it was multiple data points of his testosterone being single digits to a point that would indicate significant suppression in my opinion what what could be another possible explanation for it other than significant suppression of the super low test levels um i don't know castration is that bad uh yeah it was pretty fucking bad dude it was like the equivalent of you only have your adrenal glands producing testosterone basically like your balls are essentially non-functional but explain this then if that's the case then how would he perform well because of his if he's going into a fight with his testosterone that low because if you have a drug that's suppressing your system the drug you're taking presumably is what is driving your performance vectors that you deem useful enough to use in competition so hypothetically if i was using tarinible like all those athletes in russia or whatever using turinabol you're going to have some suppression of your testosterone levels which you know on paper could inhibit performance but you're using the the drug to drive performance so even though your endogenous levels are lower you're relying on this compound you're using that you deem useful enough to dope with potentially so here's my question if they're using a test that's sophisticated enough to detect that he has these very low testosterone levels and he has this pulsing of tariniball like where is the room for this compound that's going to significantly increase his performance yeah so let's just say hypothetically tyrionable or any random oral steroid is not like presumably this isn't 100 factual that's just speculating based on the levels and whatnot but if he has a certain even if he has crushed test the room if they're not looking for a certain drug that's not on their list and you're using it full board whatever dose you want because they can't detect it because they don't even know it exists then that's going to be significantly performance enhancing okay so then we're talking about something like the balco clear that kind of a deal potentially so it see the thing is like when they catch someone with something like what uh victor kante had come clean with that they use for barry bonds and all these different athletes undetectable you rub it on your skin and no one knew what it was we think oh well they caught that guy they're more sophisticated now you can't get away with that now do you think it's possible there could be some new designer steroids or some new compound that's not on the list of things to be tested for because we don't even know it exists but yet it is significantly enhancing performance uh yes i like the clear if you don't have an assay developed for it detecting it is essential you can't prove anything exists in the body if you don't have an acid to detect it so even though you have this elaborate list of steroids that are known about if you have a novel drug and you don't know to detect it even if you have other markers that look fucked up like it's testosterone levels in the gutter there's no threshold amount where you pop because your test is in the gutter they look for high test they don't look for low so if you're really low randomly they might be like huh that's weird and keep an eye on it maybe further test you further for other stuff but it doesn't mean you couldn't be using something gung-ho the entire time so i do think designer drugs exist i don't necessarily know that they're being leveraged highly in the designer steroid family because you could hypothetically probably be able to determine this compound derived from testosterone was manipulated and you know see something iffy and you know dig into it and get a perhaps find out pretty clear pretty soon what it is and retroactively you know penalize that guy but i do think there are novel agents being developed from the growth hormone side of things epo side of things um the testosterone obviously there's the carbon isotope ratio proof cholesterol testosterone which you could also potentially argue the guy was using basic like trt and came off and like crashed his system you know at the time of the test or something like there's a million different reasons but ultimately seeing that level in his urine testing for a random compound having in the past test deposit for a fertility drug and an aromatase inhibitor you would only use in the context of like drug use essentially intentionally in most cases it's just like highly improbable i don't think that he's at least tried to do some shit to get around the system so explain how someone would create something that would mimic the effects of hyper-human levels of testosterone but be a novel steroid like a new compound well i think the main loopholes in testing at this point are through bioidentical compounds so things that your body naturally produces so if you're trying to mimic the benefits of a high dose of testosterone i think the main go-to to be honest is literal testosterone so i wouldn't even i don't think people are often deferring to these you know oral agents that would shut you down and trying to design like a thg the clear kind of thing i think they're using literal micro doses of actual testosterone actual epo actual gh things of that nature too just micro dosing it throughout the day and the idea is that it diminishes quickly so that you if you get tested it's not going to show up yeah like i have studies that i could pull out that yeah so for right now the detection of these things if they're identical to what you naturally produce it's kind of difficult to prove one way or the other like at least with a synthetic drug if you develop a test for it you can prove retroactively you use something that should never be in your body but with testosterone epo gh etc it's a lot more finicky because it's supposed to be there so i think that again even with randomized tests saying 24 hours you have to give a one hour whereabouts of where you're gonna be every single day right hypothetically after that one hour window if you micro dose test gh epo all these bioidentical compounds the likelihood that you're going to get detected is like it depends on the individual and you would do this preliminary data going in to your longitudinal testing beforehand ideally i'm not saying how to do it or anything i'm just you know hypothetically saying and you would kind of know beforehand what it looks like when you take this micro dose of a compound and what it does to your you know detection parameters so you have someone who measures what it's like for you if you take it and you wait four hours five hours what have you yeah so like hypothetically like there are studies that literally show people micro dosing epo and gh and getting away with it and almost nobody getting caught and then there are certain genetic polymorphisms that cause it to be nearly impossible to tell if somebody's using even megadoses of testosterone really so this is just rare genetic anomalies some of them yeah so there's some individuals that have a genetic it's like they're literally missing the gene that encodes for the enzyme that excretes testosterone that they test in your urine so they test in your urine for testosterone um like glucaronidated testosterone they add uh glucoronic acid to the testosterone in your body that's a process that happens to allow you to like piss it out essentially and some individuals lack the gene that encodes for this enzyme so it makes it so you literally piss out barely any of this you know marker that they test for see there's people who use upwards of like half a gram of testosterone 500 milligrams which is like a fucking actual bodybuilder cycle essentially and getting no detection that's crazy yeah so what what do they do if they find out that that person has that gene um that's why you have the biological passport because you could assess over time what does your testosterone look like and then they develop their own little like a much narrower and smaller threshold for red flagging you oh yeah god damn this is complicated how do you what was your background in school uh marketing marketing yeah which i was not useful whatsoever how do you know so much about this stuff fucking nerd dude i don't know so you just started reading it and getting into it and you have just an ability to remember these things i used to be really into bodybuilding much more so than i am now i'm still very into it but not like actively pursuing trying to gain stupid amounts of size used to be anything he used to be gigantic he used to do your shows in a tank top and you have these fucking worlds on your shoulders like moons yeah yeah so so for me just trying to figure out how to do that stuff i've seen so many bodybuilders die in like their 30s and 40s yeah so a lot of my research has been developed around like my research has been developed around trying to not die and live a long healthy life while using things like testosterone having a higher body weight than otherwise you know maybe optimal for longevity right stuff like that and i just find it like highly interesting i just like go down these rabbit holes of things and just end up learning about it i find it interesting too but i prefer to just listen to you talk about it and do my own research yeah it's way easier you know we were talking before the podcast about uh athletes and actors and and people who are carrying massive amounts of weight and like what kind of a toll that takes on your body yeah if you're a 300 pound you know eight percent body fat guy who's 50. yeah yeah yeah no yeah there's a lot of uh a lot of guys that you know just don't talk about it yeah i think it's weird that they don't talk about it yeah like i don't know especially if you're i don't know like i guess at the end of the day even if you claim it's oh i'm just on medical prescribed testosterone people ultimately know that it's not trt limit levels you know if you're walking around it fucking the rock sides essentially yeah the rock's a great example right yeah um i've always been real honest about it because i've always been like uh i just i don't think there's anything wrong with it just like i don't think there's anything wrong with talking about doing mushrooms or smoking weeds there's definitely a huge stigma around it though still like even i saw your podcast with uh shaub and uh i think it was uh hinchcliffe yeah and he was like you think the rocks on steroids and you guys are like what the fuck do you think dude and he's like really there's no way don't they test in the wrestling first of all let me tell you something about hinchcliffe i love him to death he's the best but he is the ultimate wrestling nerd he gets up to the precipice of believing it's real you know like he is that guy yeah he fucking loves it so like for you to tell him that those guys are on steroids he's like what but he hangs around you guys and he still you know i know at least has some sort of an inkling of perhaps you know people use testosterone for you know medical uses i think he uses it now yeah and he still you know thought that perspective so you imagine the layman who just random person right anyone who just watches a random the rock movie is gonna you know just think oh this guy just fucking trains hard his uh he definitely does train hard but oh he does there's a lot of other shit involved as well yeah never i think a lot of the time people don't want people to downplay their hard work so they don't want to admit it like even bodybuilders who couldn't argue out of taking stuff because it's so obvious they often will do this thing where they say the doses they use are lower because then it's you know doesn't take away from the fact that they still train hard they ain't perfect you know they're so meticulous about their sleep etc which like i sort of understand but it's like it's all fucking lying at all levels yeah it's just not worth it oh especially when it comes to testosterone replacement therapy because for me i am i'm a person where if i find something that's beneficial i want to tell everybody yeah like if i find something that works great for me i just tell everybody i just and also like my business it's kind of okay to be a buffoon yeah you know it actually helps me it helps me to be a moron yeah you know really does so it's beneficial especially if you are self-admitted moron yeah like it it's like a nice uh a parachute that you could pull yeah it gives you a nice little chop out yeah yeah so when i talk about it first of all i talk about it because everything that i find beneficial i feel like i have a obligation to tell people and the thing about the testosterone thing it's like i think it comes back from the mark mcguire sami sosa those guys getting caught doing steroids and everybody was so disappointed in in baseball in particular that was such a big deal yeah if you got caught using steroids or in the olympics or anything else like my god you're a cheater yeah and i'm like okay i want you to think about this why are they doing that stuff well they're doing that stuff because it works yeah well you don't you're not competing in the olympics okay it's not like there's some sort of a sanction competition where you have an unfair advantage over other people because you're taking testosterone replacement therapy and the normal 50 year old guy is not like what are you doing yeah and what do you think is going to happen in 10 years from now well 10 years from now you're going to have another 10 years of low testosterone so during that time you have significant breakdown of your tendon strength muscle tissue bone density there's a lot of shit that's gonna go wrong man or not yeah or not you know and like that's why i always tell people like i'm your poster boy like i'll i'll tell you what's going i'll tell you what i'm taking i'll tell you how it works i don't take a lot of stuff yeah but i i take it on a regular basis i get my blood work done on a regular basis and i'm fucking super healthy like it works like when i was a kid when you were 54 years old you were fucking dead yeah you were a dead man yeah you weren't swinging kettlebells and hitting the bag doing rounds and doing jiu jitsu and swimming and fucking working out like a crazy person but you can do that now you can do that now you get your heart checked everything's great you're looking healthy yeah that's possible today yeah i think the longevity of pro athletes has definitely become a bit more uh it seems like the careers are being extended a little bit too for sure yeah but i think some of it is natural because of science the understanding of nutrition and supplementation hyperbaric chambers all the things that are legal that people do implement there's a lot of legal things that you can do that can change your hormone profile sauna's a big one you know there's there's a lot of different things that people do that do have like a measurable effect on your ability to recover your ability your ability to you know your endocrine system to function correctly people know how valuable sleep is now it's literally like a performance enhancing drug like people that work that sleep four hours a day versus people that sleep eight hours a day the markers are fucking astonishing yeah and back in the day too especially from the entrepreneurial side of things people would always advocate this whole like sleep when you're dead you know if you go to bed and sleep for six hours you get an extra two hours of work that you wouldn't have otherwise right yeah stuff like that was popularized maybe like accidentally by guys like garyvee for example he's just like the most hyper aggressive fucking high energy dude and you're just like never fucking sleep just you know kill it and nowadays you know how deleterious that is to just like everything including your actual efficiency when you're awake it's a big deal for me i mean i'll tell you right now i got five hours sleep last night and i just did a workout with john wolfe over and on it me and bert christopher just worked out i'm wrecked my brain is like firing on six cylinders yeah but if i get a good eight hour sleep and i come in like if i was going to uh if i needed to do something where i had to be at my fucking very best like some like super complicated podcast with a shady character yeah and i had to be you know i'd have to be uh i had alpha on my resource resources and all my research at my fingertips so i could just pull it out at any moment i would make sure that i got a lot of sleep and didn't work out that day yeah yeah like if i'm doing two shows in a night i won't work out hard during the day i'll have a light workout i'll do like 45 minutes of cardio or something two shows easy that must be fucking insane yeah it's like uh because they're at night time too which is like at the tail end of the day where your brain is at the lowest part right let's do three shows three shows are rough because the third show you don't remember what the fuck you've said yeah because you they all blend into each other because it's like when you're on stage doing stand-up it's almost like you're in a trance yeah and then you're in this trance for the third time in the night like what am i talking about did i already say this yeah especially if you don't have a rigid um uh like set list yeah all the bits and how you're gonna say them and where when you're gonna say them it can be a problem you have like a cognitive stack you use for yes shows yes yeah i do yeah i have a bunch of stuff um one i really like this neuro gum you ever use that stuff i think it rings a bell we have some over here we use it it was a sponsor one point in time i buy a lot of it on amazon and other stuff is one thing that my company on it makes it's uh alpha brain this is the new one alpha brain black label i'll give you some of it awesome take it oh i'll give you a fresh one that's my bottle yeah i actually formulate nootropics for my company too so this stuff highly interests me what do you use what it what are your uh what's your stack that you formulate um the company i have it's called gorilla mind and the product is basically based around probably a lot of the same stuff but cholinergics mainly so i'm having acetylcholine yeah so having alpha gpc i find the most bioavailable form of choline that actually crosses the blood-brain barrier and then acetylcholinesterase inhibitors that inhibit the breakdown of acetylcholine so you could use like who perezine is a good one right and i have things like ginkgo bacopa stuff like that and then dopamine precursors i'd like to put in there too and basically just have it so your brain is as mentally sharp capable of retaining information uh memory formations at its peak all that kind of stuff what's your product called guerrilla mind oh it's called yeah um so do you take this uh before podcast before you do your video podcast yeah i take it pretty much every day and you take it what like say if you want to do something and be at your peak to get an hour two hours before what's your um for me yeah i'll usually do like an hour beforehand yeah ish i'll usually combine it with like some sort of stimulant either just caffeine through um you know a coffee or an energy drink if i want or um yeah sometimes i use uh i have sleep apnea so i've been prescribing modafinil for a long time too which is what have you done for your sleep apnea cpap oh man those things suck don't they uh they're not very like they're kind of annoying to have to wear but i'm so used to it at this point that's just part of my routine but i have a mouthpiece that i wear that keeps my tongue from falling back like a lot of the thick neck guys like you yeah yeah what happens is your tongue like falls back because you have all this extra tissue around your neck so your tongue will fall back and cover your air hole that's why you choke and snore real loud well this tongue depressor it's like a mouthpiece and it holds my tongue down so it keeps my airway open oh nice it's amazing yeah i think that's one of the most overlooked silent killers of muscular guys yes and fat people yep yeah because you don't even know you're getting fucked up in your sleep yeah you wake up and you just feel terrible like i used to go to university classes and sit there and not understand why i'd fall asleep after five minutes every day right and the t you know the lecturer just thought i was a shitty student but in reality my sleep was just atrocious the entire time yeah and the cpap is a game changer for me because otherwise you know i was getting i don't know like i forgot how many episodes of apneas i was having per hour but it was exorbitant to the point that i probably would be dead by now if i didn't get a cpap otherwise so when you got this machine did you struggle to sleep with it on your face for a while well when you first start yeah because you're you're not used to something blowing air into your airway and strapped to your head so i'd often wake up and just be fucking like chucked across the room or whatever but some people they don't get used to it like they don't try to get used to it they just do it a couple nights and they say this thing sucks who wants this and you know some single guys have this idea that girls are gonna think it's weird and shit when you show up and you have the cpap machine um i've never had it i've never had experience with that though personally so when you go over a girl's house you're gonna spend the night you bring like a vacuum cleaner with you yeah yeah and that's the thing too is like it's kind of uh presumptuous because if a chick you can't really get around implying you think you're gonna be staying at her place with a new chick if you have a fucking machine in your car that blows air you know she's like what's this thing for like do you think that this is like right right yeah if she wants to snuggle and you're over there like darth vader yeah but if you don't do that then you're literally gonna be choking in her face right right so you pick and one of them kills you quick and one of them keeps you alive and how much of a difference did it make once you started using it night and day night and day yeah energy levels yeah everything like i wore a pulse oximeter and that's how you assess if you have sleep apnea or not and if you are even like a a healthy guy otherwise and you're lean even if you're fucking shredded if you're a big guy highly recommend a sleep study to anyone because it's something that even sometimes significant others they may just think you're a horrible snorer right and they think you're they just go in another room maybe to get away from you and they just think that's how you sleep and you're just annoying and loud but you might literally be dying in your sleep gasping for air like i used to wake up sit up and gasp for air because i was literally at the point of about to pass out and my body wakes me up and makes me breathe yeah i i had been there too yeah i remember i was on a plane once and um there was a guy behind me it was a long flight i think it was an international flight there was a guy behind me he was a big guy very overweight and he was holding his breath choking for like 15 20 seconds at a time so he's like laying back like yeah and then um he gets up eventually i go hey man i go do you know that you choke in your sleep he's like what do i what do you mean i go you have sleep apnea yeah i go listen to me i have sleep apnea too you got to listen to me you got to go to a doctor i go this is fucking you up i go you tired all the times like oh my god i'm tired all the time i go that's why you're not getting any sleep but it was wild to watch someone how often do you get a watch a guy sleep you know but on a plane you watch people sleep i recorded myself before i got diagnosed when i finally knew what this was and i listened to the audio and it was terrifying dude yeah you're just sitting there and all of a sudden you're like literally gasping yeah yeah there's ways you could sleep where it's not as bad right like we sleep on your side or i always felt like one of those massage tables would be the move like sleep with you so you can lie on your feet yes with the mask thing i can't lie on my stomach like i used to because the thing will get pushed out of my airway right right so yeah that might not be a bad idea how do you lie sideways on my back which gets annoying because sometimes you want to roll on your side and then you can but it's like socks off sometimes yeah you could use the full face mask which is pretty much impossible to knock off but um that makes a bunch of lines on your face and it encourages mouth breathing which otherwise is there's like research that's come out that implies that's bad for performance and just longevity and whatnot so yeah mouth breathing is supposed to be bad for you yeah does your sleep apnea change if you do if you breathe out of your nose um like when i if i use a nose mask for a versus this one yeah no the quality is the same because it's manually putting the amount of pressure i need to oxygenate me but it encourages that subconscious mouth breathing that otherwise carries into your day so you use a nose one yeah so what does it look like um it's just like a big long tube that connects to the machine that's on the ground and then it has this uh just like a strap that goes on your head up here it's a pretty thin strap here and here it has these little nasal pillows that you just like put into your nose and it's maybe like this big and do you tape your mouth shut i used to but it's uh the tape never like adhered properly to me me neither it always fell off and i always wondered like how the fuck does anyone use this stuff i think it's a beard thing yeah but even when i was clean shaving it didn't work for me really yeah maybe try duct tape yes i actually okay i actually use this thing now i just remembered actually it's called uh it like it so i have the strap for the cpap mask which is the nose thing and then i have another strap that goes around my chin to keep it locked okay keep your mouth shut yeah because the uh the tape wasn't working so i looked for like a chin strap how do those work it just ties around your head so you have a strap here straight yeah i know how it works i mean how like how effective is it very really yeah i find it better than tape oh so that's your move now chin strap yeah nose plug yeah so it's quite the fucking setup and it does it does look ridiculous so i could see why some guys don't want to do it especially you know around women but ultimately like they'll understand if they like you enough so it changes your life though ultimately oh yeah yeah it is a it is a big game changer i remember i was always tired and then i got it done well two things i got done one i got my nose fixed i had a deviated septum most of my life i've highly considered getting that fixed tube based on what you said because you said it was very significant oh my god it changed everything there were so many people that warned me about empty nose syndrome and like weird shit that might happen when you do it what's that mean apparently when you uh or is that no that's for a turbulent reduction so for me i got turbulent reduction yeah so that apparently if it's like too dramatic it gets to a point where you can't even like feel the inside of your nose or something and it feels like it's empty because all the stuff in there is just gone and i can't imagine like what it's like because it's never happened to me but people say it's the worst thing ever and it makes them suicidal from how it feels yeah there's some like real weird youtube videos about guys talking about how they got their deviated septum fix and the turbulent reduction and their lives have been ruined whoa yeah yeah so it made me look familiar nose syndrome like you feel like there's a hole in the middle of your face like that kind of a deal maybe i don't know speaking of which do you ever follow any of these guys that do like wild body modification projects uh i've yes over the years i've probably done uh videos on a few of them yeah there's this one guy i don't know if you ever heard of him the black alien project have you ever seen this maybe i might have jamie go to the instagram and look up the black alien project this guy recently just got two of his fingers removed so he could turn one of his hands into a claw yeah he's going to do both hands he's just get one and then he's going to heal up and then get the other one done he i forget what country he's from different country was he says france france so his entire body's covered attached he's looking fuck yeah his eyes are tattooed he's got like uh implants all over his head he got the tip of his nose removed so these openings that go straight into his head and then his left hand where you're seeing right now you see all his fingers now um he got those those two fingers removed yeah that's what his hand looks like now yeah what the fuck sometimes i wonder when it comes to nature verse nurture of being a parent like how much it's just you're pre-determined to be your brain chemistry a certain way versus how you're raised like how do i avoid having my kid do this you know i don't know if you can i mean i think if you i don't know i i would imagine this has got to be some abuse someone had to abuse him i just i can't imagine that this is just normal brain chemistry well also like what kind of a fucking doctor removes your fingers and how expensive is this too like imagine the amount of resources of your income you're allocating towards these procedures with the amount of shit he's done the thing about the removing the fingers too is like how ethical is that if you're a doctor you're removing fully functional fingers must be like an elaborate thing you have to sign i i mean maybe he's in france maybe they don't give a fuck over there maybe have a croissant and sit down i'm gonna cut your fingers i've seen the real life kendall he looks like a human still but yeah that is bizarre and it doesn't look anything like ken at the end of the day no but he has like fake abs fake chest fake everything and yeah so that was what the guy used to look like he was a handsome guy which is crazy yeah that's why look at him it's a fucking good looking guy and then now he's just freak oh jesus look at that picture like what is he doing with his lips is that new that's crazy look what he used to look like he's a good looking dude like i i gotta imagine there's like there's bodies of dysmorphia involved in that i mean there's some armchair psychology here whoa what is that that's what he's getting the claw tattooed into i think this is from his instagram story it looks like so before and after so he got the fingers removed so now is he gonna get the bones removed that are at the base of the hand to make it look like that like that's the only way he's gonna achieve that look i must have oh criminy okay black alien project evolution it says 25 percent so now is that before and he's got a kickstarter so you can help him pay so i guess he wants to not just remove those last two fingers but remove all the bones that connect to the wrist from the actual palm of the hand look at that face that's so crazy dude sure he's got a brawn super bra says bro all right that's the jamie's like looking at all the weird shit about him i was like hey is that a bra how do all the weird shit this guy's got out of the bras what freaks you out yeah that that body dysmorphia is a very strange anomaly like i was in uh hawaii last week and there was this one lady that came out of the water and uh we were looking at her like oh my god this poor lady like what does she think she looks like she was a skeleton like there there's no question at all that this lady had some sort of anorexia so she was walking around like like a skeleton yeah it was disturbing as fuck because like she probably thinks she looks good or maybe she even thinks she looks fat yeah there's this girl on youtube her name's like eugena cooney i don't know if you've ever seen her before but she has she's probably the biggest youtuber who's anorexic i guess and just her entire comment section is inundated with people saying like this is bad gain weight you look you know this is scary and she just gets from the start of her youtube channel to current she's gotten progressively more skinny to the point that she's like a bone rack and she still pulls videos regularly and she has millions of subscribers and her entire comment section is just telling her how bad this is there's a mental disorder she read it she's a she must be very aware of how people think about it because people make videos about it all the time too about her being yeah what the fuck is that you want to pull that up post it up so we can see this lady oh no oh my god that's crazy yeah oh my god see look at all the comments just the top ones wow i'm generally impressed that she's still alive at this point all i can say is god bless to be honest god bless huh yeah that's uh that's atrocious that's crazy man yeah what's wild is if you go on her youtube from and you sort by oldest to newest you can actually see she was still um obviously underweight in the first video but it gets present this is your first video no that's 20 21. god dude they took away dislikes which is fucking ridiculous and weird yeah so now you can't see how downvoted her videos are to reflect the opinion of how people think of her you know body composition choices so that's her first video 2013. that's pretty thin yeah but at that point you're like she's just a skinny girl yeah at that point you're like okay you're like borderline emaciated yeah well she's pretty fucking emaciated yeah look how tiny her legs are god that's great crazy imagine walking around like that no it looks like you're just gonna fucking snap and fall over yeah like a good breeze yeah but at least looks like she eats a little yeah whereas now she looks like she's genuinely starving to death yeah so if you sort by yeah now she looks like a poor girl and that's it's a disease that's very similar to what bodybuilders have or with what women have when they get like triple j tits you know when they go off the deep end and they just keep getting bigger and bigger implants and then they crush beer cans with them and shit yeah yeah yeah with bodybuilders it's wild too because it's almost like the opposite extreme where you you actually are aware you're killing yourself very quickly while you're doing it oh yeah like you still walk want to walk around at like 260 plus even though you know how stressful it is on all your organ systems your heart jacked yeah above all yeah yeah exactly it's such a strange thing and some guys some guys like dorian yates they get out of bodybuilding and oh yeah they become healthy i commend guys like that so much who had because it's one thing to realize something is unhealthy and fix it but when your entire persona is built around this physique and you're like superhuman to watch it literally disintegrate and be mentally okay with it right that takes like a very strong like willpower in my opinion but it's a shift of perception and consciousness right because you can no longer think of yourself as this gorilla you have to think of yourself as a normal human i'm a normal human now dorian has a great perspective he's a really interesting guy have you ever talked to him no i've seen your episode he was great i really enjoyed talking to him he's super down to earth really easy to talk to and you know he basically uh his mindset was when he was a bodybuilder he was going to work harder than anybody he was just going to get fucking massive just absolutely enormous and huge crush everybody and then he was done he's like all right fuck this i'm done with this yeah it's wild being relationship your perspective that dramatically where you're like the physique is just for competing yeah and you can't get away from the comments of people saying you're smaller too like even even for me in my comment section if it's you know the difference between me at peak versus now it's oh derek you stopped caring about muscle oh what happened and it's like it's not like i was a bodybuilder level competing at uh you know a pro level or anything like that and he was literally the pinnacle of the sport 260 70 fucking shredded he was one of the biggest ever yeah he was so massive yeah and he lost like 70 pounds or something insane he looks like a normal athlete now yeah like a normal guy who's athletic but he's he's got a lot of like muscle problems joint problems shoulder shoulders are kind of fucked it's like these guys they all get the worst i've ever seen those ronnie coleman oh yeah guys who's a fucking great guy he's the best he's got a great attitude about it all yeah like always at like you know they always say ronnie would you do anything differently yeah i'd lift more weights yeah like he doesn't have any regrets at all and i think he said at one point in time i forget the number of actual back surgeries but it's very high it's more than 10 i believe yeah and his whole bod his whole back is essentially fused and there's massive scar tissue and inflammation he has trouble walking you know the the nerves are all like impinged and it's all fucked yes the brutal thing too when you get to that size is progressive overload you get to a point where you're forced to use weights that are so exorbitant to overload because you're way too strong that it's impossible to not literally fucking dismantle your entire infrastructure while you're supporting those loads because you're though you're squatting you know hundreds and hundreds of pounds benching hundreds and hundreds doing this and this and like your bones can't just you know just adapt and be totally fine and your discs yeah yeah tendons and the cartilage in your shoulders and your labrums all everything's getting destroyed yeah it's so crazy and they can't fucking help it they just fuck yeah like that rich piana guy oh yeah that was a wild one right the guys who try to retain their size going like 40 plus almost always end up kicking the can yeah real quick he was big yeah and weird right because he's not really a bodybuil a professional bodybuilder he tried competing to become a pro and he just doesn't have the genetics from a structural aspect so even though he's a massive fucking dude on stage he doesn't you know have the proportions the symmetry etc to make it far but he just loves loved the lifestyle so much that and his brand was built around it again the problem of being one of these guys like the rock where your entire persona is built around your presence and you just end up retaining it into an age where you can no longer support the drug use the body weight etc and yeah like what else do you do when you're a 300 pound tattooed up bodybuilder guy yeah and everybody's like dude you're a freak you're a freak like everything was he was a freak yeah you know is there videos of him competing yeah if you type in a rich piana bodybuilding competition you'll probably find him competing i think it was like a california state show or something was he all tattooed up back then or was it not as much no and he didn't have the pmma injections yet what does that mean he got like implants in his arms i think what yeah oh so that's him bodybuilding yeah he looked pretty fucking good yeah if you click uh that reddit one second to the left in the second row that one like that's pretty solid dude yeah yeah he looked great yeah but then if you uh look a lot more what's but what's wrong with his genetics there that looks like um well when he's on stage it's just uh you know it could be conditioning it could be the lack of a developed back like there's a million reasons why you might not go pro but that says arms you know post implants in mexico apparently so you put implants in his arms yeah apparently what what kind of implants does someone like go down to that lower right yeah that one right there what's going on it was called a pmma i think pmma yeah you'd have to google that because i forget exactly what it is but that uh that is uh what i think he had done at least that's the circulating rumor it looks like he's constantly about to take a shit look at that so when what do they do in terms of like putting an implant in your arm it's like plastic or what is it um like a breast implant type thing probably but i'd be talking on my ass so you might want to just type in pmm let's see see what it is on uh the google result what is that is that a is that a picture before and after or maybe just type in what is pmma but that jamie if you just back up to where you just were it said rich piana's girlfriend shows pictures before pma oil oh it's oil like synthol you have to not the no i would not trust the random person who uploaded that oh okay better yeah that's the problem with the internet well if you look if you scroll but before you do that scroll down real quick what you read right there that picture with the tank top yeah that does not look normal no like those those arms they look inflated like the triceps they don't look normal size yeah that's what happens when you do uh synthol is one thing where you do inject just sterile oil in such a bowless amount that it eventually stretches the fascia of the muscle and you can you know manipulate the shape of body parts and a lot of pro bodybuilders do it but pmma is literally like a filler apparently so there's the the the term how do you say that poly polymethyl methacrylate is that it jamie help me out all those syllables if you go to pmma before and after maybe we'll see like other examples of what people use it for on images whoops they use it in their dicks yeah i get a fat hog bro just put that pma you get your fat booty too look at that that girl's getting in her booty oh my god i i watched some video that was horrific of this woman who had ass cancer that she got from she got it from butt implants some chick died recently some mega influencer who got butt implants really yeah look at that oh god removal of silicone hydrogel biopolymer synthol oh my god her ass rejected it and there's this rotting necrotic tissue not showing that picture by the way just don't show that picture but show that one next with that booty with the girls on it like right there maybe it's worth it i i find they look disproportionately like out of balance to a point that it's not you know you can tell someone's fucking off well a girl with a big ass that also has big thighs is hot that's like a gnat oh jesus what am i looking at there so that's the girl who's got the injections and had a body rejected it well now her legs are destroyed it's just lazy just do squats yeah but the thing is like it takes so long for a woman to develop like a big ass and big legs and if they wanna so i could imagine cuz some of them just want like a fat ass and to get that amount of size you might otherwise need to make the rest of your body a size you don't want it to be to get to that point so like i understand why they might want the injections but right you have to get your shoulders bigger your back bigger yeah like most chicks don't want that right well it is weird yeah when when a girl looks like she might be able to wrestle you to the ground yeah it's uncomfortable yeah yeah but a girl with a big ass like a muscular big ass and big thighs it's hot yeah when they have a big ass and then they have little legs that don't feel like they can support them then it looks like a diaper like you're wearing a diaper you have diaper butt yeah i don't get they can't tell that it looks like i guess once you've done it you're fucked because you already have it yeah so i think it's that same thing it says body dysmorphia it's like that the bodybuilders that don't know how the regular people look at them and you know it's like how the anorexic doesn't know yeah it's strange when they start fucking with their face that's when it gets really weird like the saddest thing for me is when chicks do their lips what's the matter jamie oh i thought you made a noise sometimes he finds things in here oh and then you know you're gonna get a treat yeah this is a dark place to keep going down if you guys want to look feel free to google go ahead give me one more oh i mean what else you got i'm just clicking around no the lips one is i agree it makes uh i don't it's weird because a lot of the time when you hear girls say what they would love to have done you can you can transparently tell them no guy wants to see that or cares but they still want it yeah they want it because it's it's a thing in their head like they're looking at their own lips and they go if i just had i would look good yeah yeah it just gets in their head i know a lady who had her lips operated on where they sliced open her lips and stuck some stuff in there and this was like i don't know she probably had it done in the late 90s early 2000s back when the technology she was an early adopter and so she has this constant lip scar so it's like a linear scar across the lip so when she's talking you see her lips you see the scar tissue and she's got these like fatso lips yeah it's uh it's just you the see the like the proportions of the face seem off like why your lips look like they if a girl has big lips usually she has thick skin and like a thick thick features and it looks great but if it doesn't fit your face and you got big crazy lips and a little skinny nose you look like a alien yeah i could see if some chick had like a brutally deviated septum where their nose is like off center or like their lips are so thin that it looks weird where it's not balanced but the ones with normal features that then go to the hyper extreme yeah i could never wrap my head around that shit yeah granted we would still probably say breast implants are fine even though that's like not to some severe degree but just like better than what their natural is and for some reason our heads can wrap around that looking good but then other stuff looks not good yeah that the breast implant's a weird one that's the one where we we send out confusing segments we can somehow perceive that a silicone fucking like circle sticking out of your chest i'm like that's good but your lips with that shit not not good yeah or your butt not good yeah yeah so what's the logic you know there's no logic it's very strange yeah it's uh you can't argue with it it just is what it is for some reason like boobs don't seem as uh personal maybe yeah i don't know maybe what it what is it more it's not this is something about your mouth you're doing your your mouth like your lips it seems sad like i don't even know biologically why i would be attracted to bigger tits anyways like does it imply you're better at feeding a child or something but then it's it's weird how you're cognizant of the fact that it's fake but your like primitive brain is so fucking dumb yeah it's like i can't even tell that silicone i have nothing to do with it if i'm being tricked yeah yeah keep tricking me well you know we we have certain things that your biology just gears into and and gets attracted to like hip to waist ratio girls with thin thin hips and big waists and big butts just whatever it means to whatever your dna signal is that picks up on that and goes that is a girl who needs to breed yeah yeah so it's fucking strange it's just the i mean because it's for us it makes sense like we know what's hot what's not yeah but if you were a biologist from another planet trying to study human beings that wouldn't make any sense you'd be like what are they doing yeah this is the weirdest animal ever they like to be tricked like the women are all wearing high heels and like a totally fake face with makeup all over it all over it like like to the point of being unrecognizable and you're just you know oh well i'm sure you've seen those tick tocks of the girl who has no teeth and she looks like shit she looks like hell like i'm like a total method and then she puts her dentures in and does her face up and then does her hair up and then she looks super hot dentures i've seen a lot of chicks getting veneers lately that don't need them no this girl has no mouth like her teeth or no teeth rather that's her that's her on the right that's what she looks like on the left that's crazy it's crazy so it's almost like when you're dating somebody it almost would be like prudent to be like let's see what you look like with nothing but it's crazy it's like she has no teeth like how do you lose all your teeth where'd your teeth go first eight questions young mom who lost all her teeth while pregnant oh wow what the f how though well doing math i don't know i'm just kidding but look how hot she looks on the right it's crazy goddamn mad blocker i mean it's really weird again that it doesn't bother us at all that we know that is not what your face looks like yeah but we go oh you look great tick tocker what is it princess x red glitter head has gone viral from her transformation from toothless to gorgeous it's kind of funny that she uh oh she experienced tooth decay and loss throughout her pregnancies she's sharing her experience with dentures to help other young people with tooth problems how the fuck would you have tooth decay during pregnancy though i don't know maybe some rare anomaly health anomaly wow so what i mean what looking somewhere she experienced two things two front teeth broke my two front teeth broke and then she got partial replacements took a huge hit on me emotionally i was losing my teeth my husband married me with perfect teeth and the next year his wife is missing front teeth she's 36 wow but it's crazy that she does this it's like that's a ballsy move to put that out to the whole world where you could see you without your teeth like scroll down see her without her teeth and then see her dolled up with the teeth hmm yeah it's a trap but it's an amazing trap like look how good she looks like scroll it look at the on the lower right hand corner she looks fucking amazing in comparison to what you look like with no teeth and no makeup on oh yeah that's wild if you uh must have been just like severe nutrient deficiency or like hormone i don't know who knows at the bottom of hormones and stuff i'm sure mediocre nutrition and genetics who knows just some weird stuff oh with that after accidentally swallowing fluoride he said genetics and mediocre nutrition contributed to her tooth decay she'd also fear their dentist ever since throwing up after accidentally swallowing fluoride during an appointment as a kid that led me to delay treatment oh so she never went to the dentist interesting okay okay damn yeah but that's not available to men there's not like if a guy gets fake teeth it's weird veneers i think are becoming more popular than men now conor mcgregor got him sometimes they look overdone to the point where i'm like you have fucking like some chompers now that look weird on you why are you laughing at conor mcgregor's team honey how much he likes to show him off oh he likes to everybody knows he has like big pearly white smiles now whereas he used to be such a badass who just never smiled well he probably got a few teeth cracked and broken from sparring and fights and stuff probably i mean man you get hit in the head with a fucking elbow or a knee or something like that yeah your chin you know um they used to call eve edwards the dentist because yeah josh near too that was his nickname he fought in the ufc he'd call him the dentist let's just smash people's teeth out after he knocked a few guys teeth out what do you think's next for uh mcgregor after the little loss streak it's a good question the last loss even though it was a bad loss in that you see him lying there with a broken leg his performance wasn't bad you know the the real problem was he went into that fight with a cracked shin and you know they had looked at it in training they had got a scan on it and they were concerned but they thought it was just a deep bruise it was hard to tell what was going on during the course of that first round it cracked and there's an interesting moment and um you know dustin talked about it where he checked one of the kicks and he pointed to connor yeah like i know that hurt you bitch like you could see him pointing to like after he checked it and that was the same leg that eventually cracked and then you know conor to his credit kept throwing it like a fucking savage and yeah you know it buckled it another time he threw a leg kick and you can see the leg kind of buckle and then when he went to step back on it just completely gave out which is pretty wild it's pretty rare to see it happen like that generally when you see a leg break like that it's from a check and you see it immediately yeah like the guy checks the kick and you see the leg snap and the guy just falls down like anderson said not like not keep fighting and then never happened right chris weidman is a good example this is there's a few um uh tyrone spong did it with uh gokan saki and uh glory kickboxing it's very but it's it's pretty rare it's more common for some reason in mma than it is even in muay thai which i'm not sure why and you know if you ask like a top-level trainer like kyrie and fitzgibbons or something like that they'll tell you they're just checking wrong these guys are they're throwing wrong and checking wrong and that the mma guys will throw full blast and all guy has to do is just check one like and they'll throw empty kicks right like meaning they don't set it up with punches just throw like wind up and throw one power kick and the other guy just gets the knee up in time and snap yeah because the shin is so vulnerable you know especially the lower part of the shin you know if you catch a guy's knee like if if someone throws a kick and you catch it up here and they hit you with this part boy they're gonna lose every time like this is this part like right above the ankle like six inches above the ankle so weak in comparison to like two inches below the knee this shit is rock hard yeah like it's like it's supported by the joint that thick upper part of the fibula you know the tibia do you just become like numb when you practice that often like guys like addisonia that rely on those like sniper fucking kicks do they just like not even feel it when they do them now they feel it but not as much the shin itself becomes hardened calloused you actually get micro fractures all over the shin because you know you're constantly whacking it and inspiring even if you're wearing shin pads like there's some guys that will practice like uh kevin ross made a bag for me that's in my la studio that i gotta bring over to here that's a sandbag it's made out of all sand and i would kick it and it fucking hurts like hell man it's just sand so you just thunk funk it's just so hard but when you do that it really conditions your shins and so you can and it actually makes your bones stronger too like you've seen guys i'm sure break baseball bats with their shins have you seen that they just fucking after a while they can just smash right through a baseball bat but the parts of your shin that are exposed like bone you can harden but the shit you can never harden is your calves like that is why that has become such a weapon in mma the calf kick because the nerves and the tissue is all exposed and there's so little of it like if somebody punches you in the forearm my god it hurts so much more than punching you in the ass yeah you know punching you in the ass is you know there's a lot of meat there yeah but your forearms like if someone kicks your forearms that's one thing about mma that people don't take into consideration when you see guys block a kick that fucking hurts so much when someone's kicking you and you block it like this and you take it on the forearm that chin just slamming in your arms a lot of times guys are losing like 50 of the strength in their arms but it looks normal because they're still moving around and they're still throwing punches but everything is numb everything hurts it's just like the whole arm is just like ugh and you're still throwing punches but it's throbbing yeah you know shins always beat forearms you know oh yeah i would think yeah fucking guys i i've trained with guys where they're holding pads for me and their fucking arms go numb from holding pads they have a big ass pad and just slamming kicks into the pads like ah and they can't move their arms afterwards now imagine it's just meat yeah just meat and the bone slamming right into the meat of your arm it's horrible yeah you can't do anything about that like you can only toughen that up so much but the shins you can toughen the shins up pretty good do you still have the same uh kind of like training styles you used to like i remember some of the old kicking videos that you used to have back in the day do you still do all that stuff just as regularly and yeah yeah i can do that still yeah i have a bag set up in my house and i have a a a gym where i have uh weight lifting weight lifting equipment on one side and the other side is matted up for jiu jitsu and heavy bags and yeah it's like what's your weekly exercise routine like like how do you out like your time is so valuable and limited how do you choose what to allocate it to accordingly it's kind of a trick like it seems like i work more than i do it gets so efficient now because you have people working for your kind of thing well it's also like an actual podcast is only like three hours so it seems like a long time but like with you yeah we don't have to do any research i've watched a bunch of your videos yeah you know i'm like i can't wait to talk to that guy it's gonna be fun yeah um so i have time in the morning so in the morning you know i get up early you know see my kids off or today i drove them to school then i have all this time so you know if the podcast starts at 12 30 like today and then um i dropped my kids off at eight i have all that time so that time is my training time so today i went to the aunt gym got a great workout with john wolfe and burt kreischer and uh today was like mostly mobility drills a lot of like john is into um a lot of range of motion stuff and then we did a lot of kettlebell stuff and bear crawls and all this he's into like like all this crazy bodyweight stuff and then we finished up with a lot of kettlebell stuff um but other days i'll do like rounds on the bag and what i'll do is i usually do like uh airdyne machine i'll do like the echo bike the um you know the rogue fitness has a great their version of the air dye machine is like super beefy do you ever use those air dimes never no they're the shit man tabata sprints on those is fucking you want to talk about a brutal cardio workout 20 second sprint 10 second rest 20 second sprint 10 second rest and you do it for eight repetitions so eight twenties right so it's like and then ten seconds like nine seven six and then and then you do it again and it's incredible for your cardio so i'll do those i'll do like a set of those get warmed up and then mostly i'll stretch and then work on kicks so i'll do i'll start off with like kicks in the air i get my stretching in make everything nice and loose and then once i feel like everything's loose then i'll do rounds where i'll just like shadowboxing and throwing kicks in the air and then once i get loose enough to the fact that i feel like i can like everything's completely stretched out all my tissues warm then i will do like like repetitions like 100 kicks with this leg 100 kicks with that leg and then i'll work on my form and stretching then once i've done that then i set the timer and do rounds in the back okay so the difference between kicking in the air and kicking in the bags when you're kicking the air you get this full range of motion techniques like as you're throwing round kicks you completely follow through you're you're you're also controlling your leg through the entire kick so it's like there's something to that as well as hitting things like you got to do both i think in order to have like good kicks and so i'll do that and i do you know boxing rounds in the back kickboxing rounds in the back and then other days i'll just do like i have kettlebell routines that i do other days i'll do just hard cardio different shit depending on what i feel like doing hmm no like traditional weightlifting stuff no no i very rarely sometimes i deadlift okay yeah that's basically it but the heaviest weights i lift are like 70 pounds like unless dead lifting like 70 pound kettlebells is generally the heaviest shit i use yeah that's probably good at this point for longevity i would imagine like there's definitely a huge disparity between the guys like coleman who trained mental full board low reps too with high weight and then the guys like jay cutler who went higher rep higher volume to achieve the same level of breakdown of the muscle but it took them it's like more sets in the gym and more time intensive but now they can still train perfectly in their 40s yeah i think there's a difference and also the crazy thing is i'm still strong like even though i don't lift heavy weights like uh one time we did a podcast we got really drunk and the guys went out to the gym in the um la studio i had a studio that was set up in one part of this warehouse and then connected to it was this full gym like all rogue equipment it was it was awesome and these dorks like burke chrysler and tom segura and ari they all got under the the bench and they tried to put up 225 they're all benches and i don't bench i don't ever do it but i busted out like 13 or 14 reps and i don't bench but it's just because i do so much kettlebell that's fucking good dude two plates for 13 14. so it's all it's all just kettlebell muscles though yeah do you know that there's a guy that's uh really fun to uh watch his instagram channel um every goddamn dre do you know him if i saw it dude super jacked and he does everything with kettlebells he's he's a fucking behemoth just super jacked like perfect physique but he also like in the things like occasionally he'll do stuff with traditional weightlifting stuff and he said it's interesting that like when he goes i'm paraphrasing but when he goes and does traditional weightlifting stuff he hasn't lost any of his strength he's like super fucking strong but most of the time when you see him like maybe he'll have like a 70 pound kettlebell or like like look at that look that's just deadlift and stuff the dude's like jacked but if you see some of the other ones jamie where he's like shirtless and he's doing all like most of what he does like see what he's doing there that's probably like a 45 pound kettlebell if you see some of his stuff like here it is this is mostly the kind of routines that he does but i mean look at the amount of muscle that guy's carrying around i mean he's fucking massive yeah but it's all kettlebell stuff but look how difficult that shit is there's these one-legged things that he's doing like these uh split squat things that he's doing where he's going sideways like that right there might be 70 pounds it's hard to tell i might be 50. it's hard to say and i don't know how big the guy is like how tall he is but he's obviously super jacked like go to the click on that one right there and you know a lot of the stuff that he's doing is uh he does it in the living room of his house yeah but that's a pretty heavy weight that looks like it's about 90. so it's 44 kilograms in the caption okay so what is 48 kilograms 90 something like probably like 100 100 yeah it's 2.2 per pound right yeah see that's pretty fucking strong but again like he's not doing like he's doing all this kettlebell stuff where it's full body you know functional strength exercises that's a real weight right joe ah i think so yeah everybody made fun of me because of the chris cuomo thing man yeah i thought it was real i just i'm being naive i guess but eventually i looked at i go yeah that is kind of weird how you can move it around like that yeah just like a fucking paperweight so that guy's fire now got rid of that dude yeah wow wait a weird for a real weird reason i mean not weird like ethically i get it because he helped his brother and his brother i get i don't know how he helped his brother like what did he do his brother was getting they were people were accusing him of sexual harassment and so did he like do research on the people that is that what he did i remember reading he texted someone who like knew of the situation like what do you got on someone and oh that's it i don't know if that's it i just should use signal yeah yeah yeah or call the guy i mean it's uh he probably didn't think anything of it he probably did it on instinct but yeah he's done what does a guy like that do when you get fired from somebody i know i thought that guy was like immune to everything well i think cnn is realizing that their ratings are dog shit yeah and that having these highly polarizing editorial personalities like stelter and don lemon and you know michael mouse is fucking hilarious you know what he did he put up he goes now that chris cuomo's gone who's the alpha male over at cnn and he put up a poll and everybody said to anderson cooper i think anderson cooper came in first but it's like these it's i i personally maybe maybe this is just my bias i want the news i want objective news i want someone to tell me what are the facts of what's going on and what's happening i don't want your ideological slant i don't want this left-wing propaganda network which is what cnn's become the way i look at cnn now is so differently than the way i looked to see an end of 15 20 years ago yeah i used to look at them as like this is how i get the news this is unbiased professional news they're going to tell me what's happening in pakistan and what's happening in you know mogadishu this these are this is these are the real journalists that are telling you the news now i look at them i go you fucking propagandists like what do you the right arm of pfizer like what are you doing yeah you know it's just uh i think there's a market for real news and it's really hard to find that now it's really hard especially outside of independent sources yeah yeah and i guess if you're trying to even take a balanced approach to things like are you even gonna be they're gonna be censored to the point where you can't even be a news outlet to begin with right so i think the dumbest uh fake weight was stallone though don't you think yeah that was that one was so ridiculous yeah like the amount of trying to sell it was just absurd it's like what happened man yeah are you okay yeah how much attention do you need you're sylvester stallone this is crazy yeah like i don't know what why you thought that was a funny thing to do do you think he's funny is he was trying to be funny or do you think he was trying to sell it well i that's the that's the argument right the uh because then some people would think there's no way he is dumb enough to think people are gonna buy it and it's supposed to be a joke he's from a different time i know that's why you might think he just is actually trying to sell it too which you know the amount of grunting is pretty dramatic he put heavy in quotes yeah so that didn't delete the post either yeah let me see it again so here it is so yeah it's almost like like even he's selling it before he's even lifting it that's what's crazy does it have volume for people to yeah audio you've been there every day crashes them into the ground like the way they hit if they bounce back he would have been fucked yeah it would have smashed his shins people thought that was real though i don't think they did i think most people figured that it was fake but i don't know man look the chris cuomo thing i thought was just really strong but i didn't think about it because i don't use like a hundred pound dumbbell yeah if you're used to using kettlebells all the time then maybe i could see how you might not look at it discerningly yeah i also didn't think someone would be dumb enough to use a fake weight no yeah but it's i think someone wrote his name on that weight right didn't someone give him that weight i think it was a yeah it's like a gift so he was probably like too proud to tell people this is really 100 pounds i'm just fucking around yeah but like thought like i'll play it off and people think and i bought it but then you see like a real bodybuilder using 100 pound dumbbell you go oh yeah that's different yeah no i think uh most some layman would see the you know cuomo video and be like damn this guy's a fucking house like look at him toss this hundred pound double around there are some people that are stupid strong and they don't even look that big yeah yeah definitely but it's odd there's a strength is an odd thing man like one there's one thing that's weird is some wrestler the strongest fucking human beings that i've ever met were wrestlers there's this dude eric i forget his last name but we used to do drills together and he wasn't much bigger than me man he was um you know i'm 200 pounds now back then i was probably 190 and maybe he was 200 205 at the most so maybe it's 15 pounds heavier than me and we used to do these drills this neon belly drill the neon belly drill is you're on your back the guy has his knee across your belly and uh generally like hands on one shoulder and maybe uh an overhook on one of your arms and the idea is he's trying to hold you in place you're trying to explode out of there you know put pressure on the knee hip escape get out of the position when he was on top of me i wasn't going anywhere this fucking dude would pin me down it was crazy how strong he was but then when we reversed it and i was on top of him i would just go flying yeah he would he was so fucking strong that like he would get his hands on you and he'd fuck and you would just literally be lifted into the sky i couldn't hold him down and it was this wrestler strength that is just he wasn't that much bigger because there would be other guys that were that big and you trained with them and it was proportionate it made sense like you'd roll with them and they were strong but it wasn't freakish and then wrestler strength is like a different kind of strength they're so used to manipulating bodies and they're so used to just just being able to push things they're always just pushing and pulling and pushing and pulling and they just have this fucking preposterous tendon strength yeah it's uh weird how transferable or not some exercises are for like some people are just disproportionately strong at one lift for some reason yeah where they can deadlift a fucking ridiculous amount but then bench they suck at and then transferring to actual athletics it might not even make a difference at all and they get tossed around by some dude who can't even bench a fucking plate or something yeah yeah well it's um there's a big one uh in martial arts where it's power power for striking is the strangest thing because you really can't you can get people to hit a little harder like there's things you can do like cable drills there's some explosive plyometrics that can increase your punching power and your kicking power a little bit but not much not much where you're ever no one's ever gonna like mistake you for melvin manhoof or something like that there's certain people that just have fucking crazy power and it's so weird like there's this guy alex pereira he fights in the ufc now but he's the only guy to knock out stylebender he knocked out stylebender in a kickboxing bout and then he finally made his ufc debut and i was so excited about this i'm like because this guy has this fucking freakish disproportionate power where it doesn't make any sense like you look at him like what are you made out of like you're built different he hits people and just sends them flying like everybody goes unconscious it's so crazy and he hit this guy like there's him right there and look at him slides out of the way like he knows the guy's gonna fall everybody falls with him but he he knocked this guy out like look at this this is i mean this is a good punch but it's just the the the reaction that people have to strikes is just different yeah everybody goes unconscious is he middleweight he's a middleweight 185 pounds yeah pull up his last ko because it was fucking crazy the guy desperately tried to get a hold of him and hold him down i was just us talking about him because i'm just talking about how ridiculous he is his it's literally like the dude's made out of wood or something yeah like when he knocked there it is right there far right no no that's the impact of it but there's a video right up there above that above that right there that's clicked on oh it doesn't show the actual knockout no here it is watch this oh why would they do that well you can find it find the uh the ko ufc sometimes the ufc actually stops the knockout blow from being put online yeah they're pretty heavy on copyright i don't get that i literally don't get that like don't you want people to watch it again now they've copyrighted my videos before yeah i think they think that if somebody watches that then they're not going to watch the actual fight and pay for the pay-per-view i couldn't disagree more especially if you're showing uh like you're giving commentary on something that's occurred years ago even it's kind of crazy it's like i'm drawing attention potentially to yeah a sport that you would want advertising it's free advertising yeah it's essentially free advertising for the sport yeah i don't get it i just like it's hollywood shit right it's like copyright for music copyright for film they just they don't want you touching their stuff yeah but when you're literally promoting it there it is watch this boom i mean dudes like what the fuck just happened to watch this knee boom i mean and he just walks away and he tried to stop the fight but dan murgliada was determined to watch that guy get murdered so what's his record in the ufc right now did he just want to know yeah i want to know so he's undefeated in in i think he maybe might have lost one mma fight early in his career so what held him back from being in the ufc sooner well he was a glory kickboxing champion in two weight classes so i just yeah well i mean not just maintain it but he was also preparing for the ufc so preparing the grappling aspect of it is a big deal and it's also like his rise his rise uh as a kickboxer coincides with glover to share as rejuvenation as an mma fighter because they train together it's really interesting because glover just won the light heavyweight title and he's 42 which i think is like the second oldest guy to ever win a title yeah uh and and also in you know a very competitive weight class against this guy jan bolhovich who's a fucking murderer right and glover just dominated him took him down beat him up strangled him dropped them like heard them bad standing then got them to the ground strangled them but glover has been training with alex pereira and so they've been enhancing each other's skill set glover is a fantastic rapper great wrestler great black belt and brazilian jiu jitsu and also a very good striker but alex pereira is literally the scariest striker on earth so the two of them together it's really greatly enhanced glover's abilities and also greatly enhanced alex so the two of them together now competing in the ufc it's a big deal and then alex is the same size as him too because even though he's he fights at 185 he also held the glory 205 pound title it was knocking people out at light heavyweight as well he was the only two division champion over there has addisonia posted about that guy yeah coming into the league yeah i mean he knows it's a big fight for him and i'm sure he wants to get that w back or get that l back yeah i mean i'm sure has that what is it what else is there to do in the middleweight division right now for him there's a rematch with whitaker that's a big fight whitaker's looked fucking amazing ever since uh stylebender knocked him out you know and uh maybe with a different approach it could be a different fight but addison is just so smart man he's so clever like when you watch him fight for a person like me who loves like intricate high level striking setups and traps he's the master watching him against costa was like watching uh like a master chess player yep yeah just pick apart an amateur someone who's like a berserker because costa's a berserker he just likes to charge at you and pin you up against the cage and beat you up which is fine if you stand there and trade with them but addison is like not today bitch come over here whack and there's your leg again whacking his and his leg was trashed early in that fight but he looked like he had cup marks all over his legs at the beginning of the fight yeah like he might have had some damage going into that fight but i think there's also the psychological burden of competing against adasanja was fucking with his head you know he was just you know he said he got drunk the night before which is just crazy he came up with all these excuses and he wanted a rematch right away like dude you got lit up like a christmas tree you can't get a rematch right away yeah as much as i've talked about you know his speculated like hormone used in the past and stuff like i actually love watching that guy fight like him and verse romero was fucking insane one of my favorite fights insane and it was almost disappointing to see how like i guess your strategy is going to be different against addisonia but his he was so like timid and just like not effective at all some guys can keep it together up until the big one the real big one just they get dwarfed by the moment in the big one they can fight real good in the pretty big ones but then there's something about that world title there's something about bruce buffer stand in the middle of the octagon israel had a sanya oh my god this is really going down i'm really about to fight style bender for the fucking world title i think there was no crowd at that one too and he was still yeah timid i wasn't no crowd i'm pretty sure abu dhabi yeah i think the abu dhabi one had a crowd is it cool if i go fill this up and girl yeah yeah we'll take a break we'll be right back awesome darris gotta pee and we're back how much water you drink a day you one of those freaks um maybe like four or five of these i don't know damn you must be peeing all the time yeah do you cut it off at a certain time so you don't have to pee in the middle of the night yeah usually maybe like i don't like half an hour beforehand and make sure while i'm getting ready for bed i piss before i start brushing my teeth and then i piss again after i'm done right before just to make sure i get the last little bit out do you wake up in the middle of the night or do you no never never no i always do i drink so much water i'm always drinking and i'm i'm thirsty at night and i just i'm weak i just drink it i just feel like it's good for you wait so you wake up in the middle of the night to go drink more or to piss yeah you might want to try is a glycerol this is a product that we sell usually for hyper hydrating a muscle for endurance work or for getting just like a impractically ridiculous pump in the gym as a bodybuilder but you could hypothetically retain more water before you go to bed so you don't piss is it is there any side effects glycerol is just like a normal food ultimately glycerol yeah g-l-y-c-e-r-o-l yeah see if it keeps you from being yeah so like runners would use this typically in endurance events to hold on to more hydration and that yeah like hyper hydrates your cells to allow you to not excrete as much the thing is like i know what i'm doing i know if i have a drink right now you know if i drink a glass of water and it's 10 o'clock at night i know yeah i know at three in the morning i'm gonna have to piss but i still fucking do it yeah but it's you know there's that feeling you get it's funny because it's the most dramatic before you go to bed you're like huh i'm super parched now and it just feels so dry like i wouldn't even be able to sleep knowing that my throat is this parched i know and i want water yeah but then i know i have to pee but you know what i drink so much water and i think it's one of the most important things you can do in terms of health i just think there's a lot of people out there that are unknowingly that are dehydrated yeah and i'm not i just drink i drink water all the time and i just think it's so important to do that's why i saw you with that big ass jug yeah no yeah i'm like right when it runs out fill it back up and i just zip it all day and you cut it off at what time at night um typically it's about half an hour before i go to bed yeah yeah i just make sure i piss with higher frequency before bed i can hold my piss like a motherfucker during a podcast but yeah but at four o'clock in the morning it's almost always like god damn it i wake up from a nightmare or something like that and i gotta pee i don't know i'm a bit lucky in that regard i guess but um you might you could probably manipulate your electrolyte intake a bit too to hold more water with your sodium and whatnot but i do take a lot of liquid iv which is electro extra electrolyte supplement that i love yeah i take that stuff a lot yeah and i don't i don't know that necessarily having more like forcing your body to hold more water isn't necessarily like healthy anyways yeah but it's not i don't try to do it like past my thirst but i'm always thirsty yeah i'm just i'm always drinking water and if i'm not drinking water i'm drinking something like xevia you know which is like stevia flavored yeah that's the soft drink pretty pretty good for being naturally flavored taste tastes good yeah the cream soda one is pretty goddamn close black cherry's pretty good too in canada i don't know why the diet pop options are so limited like our grocery stores are like a fraction of what you have available here when it comes to diet substitutes but we have zevia and it's like the only diet cream soda thing i have access to and it's it's like one of my go-to's um does that mean this can have canada have smarter laws in terms of like no they just have like all like the full sugar shit and not as many of the alternative diet substitute versions that are you know zero calorie or stuff like that is the thought that the diet stuff's bad for you i think we just don't have as much stuff oh yeah what is it like over there right now with the the covid mandates and the the vaccine mandates um oh where i am on the west coast it's uh basically everywhere you go into you have to wear a mask um you have to show proof of vaccination to get into pretty much everything except grocery stores um what else like fast food restaurants uh gyms you do need to show it which is problematic obviously because it's kind of like paradoxical to oh you want to be healthy but we're not going to let you be healthy unless you get this thing that that you know what i mean so but pretty much everywhere you need it other than grocery stores and a couple like you know random things that are less relevant and is what are the regulations like we were talking earlier but i haven't even checked maybe we should check like if you want to fly into canada don't you have to be vaccinated you have to get a pcr test and it has to be negative and um whereas to come into here you can get like a rapid antigen or a pcr and they'll take both america yeah but going into canada you take the more strict elaborate one that's higher sensitivity and do you have to be vaccinated as well right now i don't 100 i i believe you do yeah because i have a show there on 420 yeah that's been rescheduled for two years in a row because the pandemic yeah it was supposed to be april 20th of 2020 and then it was april 20th of 2021 so you chose 420 there for a particular reason i would imagine and i do a 420 show every year yeah i do it somewhere where weeds legal yeah yeah okay just have a 420 it's been like a tradition that i've had for several years but it's uh i don't know if i'm going to be able to do it and i was thinking like maybe i could do it somewhere across the border in like uh washington state just have everyone drive over yeah tickets dude seattle's a fucking war zone i'll meet you in blaine washington bro seattle is a war zone yeah it is so wild there now it's like it's literally like a third world country about to implode i used to go there years ago and it was gorgeous you'd see like a few homeless people every now and then but it was like all tech money and everything and now like every time you turn on the news after they fucking took over that sixth block like the antifa people took over that six block area in downtown seattle and the mayor called it the summer of love and everybody was like what is this bitch saying like what are you talking about you took this you got fucking antifa took over your town you've got literal like militants controlling the streets like warlords yeah like they they were they were beating people up that took photographs and videos they had their own like police they were using like their own they had their their own like authoritarian control system somebody got shot there and then eventually you know the whole thing imploded and the police recaptured it but it was like what is happening to seattle and portland's even worse like something about you got to get sunlight kids yeah something about that pacific northwest what's it like in vancouver right now uh in terms of like chaos post covid uh there's been some uh like protests and stuff downtown but i think it's i know there's like very strict gun laws in canada so i think it's i don't really know how much less or more problematic that is because of that but there's not that much violence um in vancouver but there is you know protests against the vaccine and stuff like that and i don't know like i kind of stay out of the downtown area nowadays it's kind of going to shit a bit like a lot of people have moved from down it used to be the place to be downtown vancouver and then a lot of people have moved to the suburbs away from it to get away from the bullshit and the prices did not go they're still exorbitantly high and ridiculous so it's kind of like i don't know like of all the places to live the most overpriced i think it's like vancouver toronto california new york kind of places they're all absolutely shit they're all going to shit yeah so like even to live in like a you know relatively chaotic area of downtown and get like a shit whole house it's like you know a couple million bucks potentially okay maybe that's an exaggeration but like a shithole would be like a million dollars for sure it is wild yeah those prices are wild i remember when i was a kid you thought about someone having a million dollar house like wow no a million is like the pinnacle number of like you're rich now now it gets you like what it's a shack yeah yeah san francisco is the worst san francisco's crazy overpriced and filled with like homeless people shooting up in the streets and taking shits in front of parked cars it's wild yeah there's this area in vancouver called hastings and it's just it we call it resident evil when we drive through it because it's just like going through like a zombie like video game essentially and yeah it's absurd it's all these liberal cities too which used to be amazing just a few years ago it's like you see what happens when the shit hits the fan and then they have to make decisions they revert to this sort of authoritarian way of doing things and then they're also paradoxically leaning on crime yeah it's kind of unfortunate too because it's not like i have a lot of flexibility if i ever want to move because like where else do i go in canada and then getting citizenship in the states is quite difficult to do what is it like if you're a canadian and you want to come over here you have to get a visa or mario wychick yeah i mean a white chick marry a canadian i'm like you're from another country yeah look that's funny i'm like seeing you if you marry some um american lady how difficult it's like do you have if you marry an american lady do you have to how does that work like do you have to prove that you love her like what do you do because i don't i don't know because i think isn't there like mail-order brides from like russia and shit who come to the states and get green cards that's a good question like is there countries where they're less likely to believe you that's a good question right yeah like if you want to sneak over from haiti like all those people coming from haiti and then like you know you see this lady comes over from haiti and immediately gets married to some american guy like hey how'd you meet yeah i guess it's kind of calling into quite it's kind of like an ethical yeah weird thing where you're like a official government guy and you have to criticize a relationship's validity i think they do i think you have to have meetings like there's no way this fucking guy would get this chick because i know a guy who did marry a girl who came over from russia and that's that's how he did it like but they were friends i think she was like his roommate and he married her but i don't even think they were fucking i think he just raw into the deal for sure i think he just like did it for her so she could stay here but they had to go places and they had a like they had to go to some sort of a meeting where this guy's like you know like how long have you been married you guys are real close like what's up you have to get it i mean because like people have there there are people that have um asexual relationships but they're married like they're married but they don't really have sex anymore trying to imagine having like a serious interview with the guy who's like so do you guys fuck like how fuck how much you like to fuck a bro do you actually like fucking this guy or are you just here for right yeah and if you do fuck the guy but you don't like it does that mean yeah yeah like i do it because i want green cards yeah like what how's that work i don't know what the fuck did they do about that i don't know oh things you have to prove to make a bona fide marriage of the so documents showing co-mingling of financial resources such as joint bank accounts but i have a friend who's married and him and his wife have different bank accounts and she kept her maiden name they wouldn't be able to do it more than one thing i get it credit card statements tax returns blah blah blah documents showing joint ownership of property such as a home or auto title a lease showing a joint tenancy of a common residence birth certificates of children born into the marriage affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationships that's funny the bona fides this here is a bona fide relationship i love my wife i'm not just a canadian yeah coming over here it's a look at that fucking racist photo they used this poor dude looked like he's smiling next to a lady who doesn't really love him look i love you i'm in america now look at this the usc will scrutinize your case to confirm there is no attempt to evade immigration laws with a fraudulent marriage what's a fraudulent marriage you can't tell me what the fuck a fraudulent marriage is if i say i do and she says i do we're good what would you want someone else is one of the things they said there's a list of stuff that like if you're a drug dealer they won't let or not say drug abuser or addict drug trafficker that won't allow you to go through either what if you're just a drug enthusiast not an abuser scroll back down scroll scroll back down to what that we were just looking at look at this this is what's funny uh it says it says here to anyone oh here it is anybody can get a marriage certificate uscis will need evidence that your marriage is the real thing therefore it will be necessary to submit evidence that you and your spouse have a genuine bona fide marriage to establish the bone of fives i've never seen more bona fides wonder how you qualify for the bad job that's the guy who completely dismantles relationships and decides well i know a guy who's married and he i'm pretty sure he's gay and he's got an older wife and it seems like they get along yeah they have this weird relationship but it's they're married like he says this is my wife she said this is my husband and i'm like okay i believe it i mean maybe they're just great friends i don't know that's not a real marriage yeah they seem like they're married yeah i don't know i uh do not want to have to go down that path to get something find yourself a nice texas settle down yeah settle down here in america it's weird right because like canada is a strange one because everybody speaks english and they look exactly the same like a canadian like you could easily have a texas accent you could easily have california or chicago people somehow claim that they can tell in my videos that i'm canadian but yeah no i can tell oh really yeah yeah you say you have a boat you say that occasionally you have like certain ways of saying things where i'd go yeah he's probably canadian but i when i first watched your video i did not think that it took time yeah it took like and also man maybe i knew you were canadian i might be lying i might have known you were canadian then and then started seeing it you know it's not that bad but there's like a there's a there's like a part that's a certain uh the way canadians talk yeah one of the i did a video a long time ago on jason momoa i think in his role in aquaman and the way i say aqua apparently is like instead of aqua and just like certain things like that people would clue into and be like what the fuck what a weird way to say this oh did you think jason momoa is on the sauce um i think my conclusion at the time that was a really iffy one because the guy is just a built fucking dude to begin with with like a big frame um but it would be like safer to assume than not that he probably did a little something for his peak super hero you know yeah and the money that you're talking about like if someone's playing thor like that's a good one that guy sauced it up a hundred percent happens i love it yeah yeah i think so too not there's anything wrong with that hemsworth backed on like 20 pounds or 30 pounds in a matter of like six months or something absurd yeah pretty quickly yeah and if you look at him before thor won it was like a night and day difference it was a skateboarder yeah he looked like a surfer dude ah look at that look at the video before that's hilarious my god he looks so thin oh my god that's well that looks like he's like 20 years old though the one on the left he doesn't even look like he's 20. he looks really young doesn't he yeah um it's not like he had a bad uh like he's still athletic and has like a good frame beforehand but that's the reason why he also ends up the way he does when he takes gear because a lot of people who take gear they still look like shit to be honest but it's still pretty obvious he packed on just exorbitant amounts of tissue very quick so he had a great frame see there's that uh that fat suit that he put on look at that yeah yeah that's crazy um that he does have a great frame for it though that that's uh now that's one of the superheroes i think actually looks like the superhero hero you would picture kind of thing yeah because it's very difficult especially when you're growing up and you get influenced by these comic books and you see them they look they look like mr olympia competitors in the comic books right and i just find it hilarious how many women complain about body like obviously they have their own issues with unrealistic body image you know things that they're portrayed to be the ideal for women but those physiques are achievable through like some like nutrient deprivation excessive cardio or whatever whereas for us the physique we're told is like the ideal is achieved through grams and copious amounts of exogenous steroids that are going to kill you in like 15 years and then yeah so and it's like that is what's portrayed on us is like ultimate you know pinnacle of masculinity some ridiculous unrealistic ideal that you'll never get to even if you had prime genetics and sauce your face off and ate food all day and trained every fucking day perfectly you'll still never get there in most cases i think there are certain women that want an excuse for why they're big oh yeah there's definitely a huge push towards pro obesity stuff now yeah well it's ridiculous this body positivity nonsense like yeah listen it doesn't mean you need to be mean to someone who's overweight but to pretend that that's healthy is fucking preposterous yeah too the problem i don't see anything wrong with of course if you just want to be a certain way or you have like some people through epigenetics when they're born their parents the way their lifestyle is will literally influence their kids baseline as to how you know their like appetite signaling satiation like feedback systems and what not work and they end up having a harder time you know keeping weight off than the next person like there's obviously some genetic predisposition elements and if you want to be if you're overweight like whatever but don't put out there like viral tick tock videos that are like be okay with being like a fat fuck in like you know right actually promoting it as if it's like cool almost or it's completely fine in a way that's not going to harm you in some capacity well not only that i mean especially during the pandemic and especially during we talked about this yesterday they pulled up the study uh where it was showing how uh covid affects overweight people so much differently because their their body literally doesn't produce the antibodies correctly oh yeah because of the obesity like the obesity has an effect on the way your body produces antibodies yeah and so that's why at one point in time at least 78 of the people that were in the icu for covid were overweight yeah pretty much everything in your body physiologic process wise functions better when you're you know a lean slash athletic body composition have some muscle have good glycemic control did you see the podcast that i did with uh peter atiyah yeah he's great he's amazing yeah but one of the things that uh peter who's a uh he's an oncologist and now he does mostly uh life extension medicine but uh he said or is it a surgeon he's a what is an oncologist someone who does cancer surgeries whatever he is genius guy um he said that having high cardio having a high uh cardiovascular fitness level reduces your all-cause mortality by five-fold which is so crazy he's like we don't have a drug that can reduce your all-cause mortality by five-fold and if you did my god everybody would want to take it yeah but that's all you have to do is just have great cardio yeah yeah and they won't tell you that unfortunately well they don't want you to feel bad that you don't have any willpower true that too yeah one thing i thought that was really interesting is he mentioned the use of flavoxamine in attenuating the uh 19 yeah that's definitely a super promising intervention now and it's uh like it has so many multifaceted applications and i don't know why more people aren't looking at it for like a concurrent like adjunct to be used alongside the you know the main thing that everyone thinks is the only thing you can use right that vaccine thing yeah that thing yeah well what's interesting too is that there's so many different things that we've learned over this pandemic and this is i think maybe the bright side of it that people have learned about the actual effect of obesity in your immune system whereas before the body positive shit was so prevalent that it never got discussed like what are the negative consequences of being obese but now people get it and they get it in their head and a lot of people have made positive health choices including my friend laura my friend laura bites who's a hilarious comic i i take her with me on the road all the time she lost what is she down like she's down more than 50 pounds i think she's down close to 60 pounds maybe i'm wrong but there's pictures of her on her instagram go to lara's uh instagram she's pretty she's she's very bold the way she takes these photos because she shows herself like with like a sports bra and just fat as fuck and then the next one she's super lean and healthy look at that wow look at that that is a positive change over the pandemic see what's wild have you seen the uh adele before and after and people like get pissed they're mad at her yeah they're mad at us she's a smoke show now they're like pissed she's going to be less likely to die and it's like they're a person that they they want to see thrive and make music yep they're like you suck for you used to be one of us and now you make me feel bad because now they see her and she's a fucking this hot lady she's hot and lean and you know you see her like give me a recent picture of a dill she looks fucking hot like she's beautiful like who'd have guessed like she always looked pretty like she had pretty with her big face but then when you see her when she's like really lean like how much weight has she lost i don't know it's dramatic though but it's all she didn't do surgery she just did no i think most people that well not everyone because there's like that fucking alien guy who thinks he's needs everything regardless of how jacked or you know leaning as a right hundred pound weight loss my god that's insane amazing look at that bro she's stunning jawline city she's so pretty it's crazy look at her look look at her body it's incredible and women are mad at her yeah you fucking bitch used to be one of us eating donuts and singing like an angel no it's crazy how much fat shrouds facial features too where it's like somebody who they thought they were ugly and they just like got in shape and it's like oh wow yeah you're fucking hot look at look what's going on under there yeah because it's like you're everything gets bigger your nose gets bigger your eyebrows get bigger it's like yeah it's just fat yeah some of my uh old heavy-duty bulk photos from when i was uh into bodybuilding and didn't under i just i thought more food equals more muscle not that you're just gonna gain disproportionate amounts of fat so i used to force feed the shit out of myself i just turned into like a bloated disaster at 40 pounds heavier than i should have been what was the heaviest you ever were um two maybe and what do you weigh now right now i'm probably like 220. and so when you're at 270 was that the bulking phase yeah and that was just like that that picture on the left is like yeah that's uh like look how round my head is just in general yeah you got a big round face yeah and then the right shredded that's the most shredded you ever wear uh probably yeah yeah and so is that like your peak bodybuilding days look at the size your shoulders son yeah just genetics like those kind of shoulders like that big yes some of it is gear related too though because there are there's a idea that there's more androgen receptors in your delts and traps so you sort of see this this almost one of the ways you can identify guys you use shit too like you know when you saw vitor you're like his traps are like up to his right yeah there's more androgen receptors in there that steroids bind to so you can sort of like identify a guy who has like disproportionate development like oh he's probably using hormones interesting yeah so that that i didn't know that i just thought it made all the muscles grow yeah look at those shoulders damn son it's with the shoulders are a big one that's a big muscle group yeah like for whatever reason like you know like girls it's a big butt with guys it's big shoulders yeah there's like different muscle groups that have like an effect oh there's one of me being fat that one on the left yeah this is that video i made like for an hour ago yeah i did not have uh hgh gut i had i ate like a giant bowl of spaghetti sausage in hindsight i think it was just like gut dysbiosis from like your diet at the time because you got rid of it pretty quick right yeah i got rid of it real quick but it was also that night that was a nighttime podcast and i had eaten a huge meal do you use that you still use gh though right i use igf now and i use it rarely i use it like every four days or something like that okay and i use uh i'm using sermoralin too okay that's what i'm using now i'm transitioning to that so why'd you switch just to try different stuff to see what it's like because i was only using even when i was using growth i was using one unit it was a very small dose and so to switch over to uh i uh this guy that i work with was using igf-1 and is using it and um like using it intermittently like using it every four days like to use it after your hardest workouts or something or like how do you time it he's just doing it in the morning and so you know we try to do it that way there are certain ways to time the growth factors to be like more productive have you ever used a moron uh so that's like growth hormone releasing hormone it's like a peptide and like personally i see uh there's something called cjc1295 that the same compounding pharmacy you probably get the samoran from probably makes that seems to be more efficacious and i've used that over some orlan and i use a ghrp with it like an ipamarellan concurrently with it and it's it definitely works to some extent the but for me i don't know like i like the uh i like the fact that it works with your body's internal system whereas like gh is just an unregulated amount of hormone getting introduced into your system you have no control however how much output there is right whereas with samoralin and cjc1295 it's like your pituitary there's a bottleneck where you're not going to go over what you otherwise should need right because with gh you could end up in a situation where you do have like disproportionate insulin resistance developing um you know progressing cancer potentially whereas you have this that would never happen with one unit but within your own body's pituitary limits the samoralin seems to be uh more favorable from like a risk standpoint at least the cjc how often do you take that well it kind of depends on like how frequently you want the benefits because if you're using this stuff like you're gonna get acute lipolysis when you're using it so like what's that mean like the free liberation of free fatty acids into circulation to then burn so like for gh or anything gh related they basically do like insulin is like a storage hormone and gh is like a liberating hormone that like liberates fatty acids for then burning and exercise ideally so ideally you would be doing some sort of activity after its use or you'd be using it at a time when you otherwise are trying to induce the most recovery like pre-sleep is like what i would time it as so that's as important like doing it is like when you do it is very important i think so because if you were just using gh just haphazardly all the time hypothetically if you have no injuries to heal you have nothing really going on you're not exercising you're like freeing up fatty acids becoming insulin resistant and then not burning them and they kind of just get like redeposited and you're making yourself like acutely insulin resistant for no reason essentially i have heard that that people do develop insulin resistance from from gh use yeah i've heard of that i think that was from it was a book that i had read like back in the day when i had first heard about people um doing hormonal replacement doing hormone replacement with growth hormone yeah yeah it's uh definitely a real possibility because some people too they overdo it and they like self-induce a state of acromegaly where they're like andre the giant basically hormone levels but we had a guy named bigfoot silva that fought in the ufc that had a pituitary gland uh tumor and it was causing him to have gigantism yeah and then uh they operated on the pituitary gland and then his body wasn't producing any hormones and so then he was fighting with no hormones and the problem was he just could not take a punch anymore where he was like indestructible before yeah and then all of a sudden he'd take a punch and you just go out and i mean it's hard to say because part of that could have been there's a thing that happens to a fighter when they've had you know x amount of pro fights x amount of gym wars x amount of sparring sessions they just can't take a shot anymore yeah it's crazy it's crazy to watch because you watch a guy like chuck liddell was a great example he had an iron chin yeah people crack him on the jaw he would just fucking fire back and you couldn't believe the shots he could eat and then one day he'd get hit and bank just like his legs would go and it would he would just would not be able to take a shot anymore and he actually explained it to me he said it's like your body is trying to protect you from your toughness it's like your brain realizes like oh this motherfucker going gonna stand and trade bombs with this guy again and we're just gonna take the damage fuck that we're just gonna shut down the system and just shut off yeah i think that's almost sort of how even as you get older some of these processes down regulate to like i think conserve you as you become less like capable of handling stressful events like like a lot of people they want to replace like every hormone that gets you know shut down but like there's a theory that maybe these things are down regulating on purpose to avoid things like cancer and right right as you get older yeah one of the things that i've done recently that helped me a lot is hyperbaric chamber use yeah i followed that israeli there's an israeli university that did a protocol which was for 90 days you do 60 sessions of 90 minutes per day 60 of those 90 minute sessions and you found at the end of the 90 days they had an increase of the telomeres which corresponded to a 20-year decrease in biological age have you done one of those like uh horvath clock assessments or anything to see what you're doing that now i need to do that no it'll be interesting yeah i'm very interested especially after doing the hyperbaric chamber sessions because it made a big difference like i felt lighter if that makes any sense yeah i felt like like you know just felt like i had i'm i always feel good because one of the things that i've been very fortunate about is that um i've been very consistent like i've never got really out of shape i've gotten fat before but it's just from gluttony i'm a glutton i have a real like i will eat two pizzas i just if it's in front of me and especially carbs i just don't yeah i have to be i don't get how some people can portion out junk food and just eat a little bit of this and just like so yeah if i'm gonna eat shitty it's like full board i'm coma ing myself yeah it's like either have it out of the house or if it's in there it's getting like fully destructed yeah if i'm pulling into a drive-through at late at night and then i know it's like a fucking jack-in-the-box we're gonna have a problem yeah i'm going ham yeah yeah but for me the big one has always been pasta and i get so fat and it's always like right here it's like sticks out my sides and my guts i think it's also like a gluten issue because both of my kids have gluten issues and i guarantee you if i got my allergies checked i guarantee you'll have a gluten allergy because every time i eat a lot of pizza or a lot of pasta it's not like when i eat a lot of meat if i eat a lot of meat i don't see like a distended belly yeah but if i eat pasta i'm like i think some of it is like the bacteria in your gut to process the shit too could be more like gas producing yeah and it's just like because it's like there's no way the overall mass of the food is producing this much of a difference where it's like i sat down with a flat stomach and now it's like touching the fucking table but the thing is it's like you're eating dough it's just glue it really really is it's like powder it's like flour and water and they dry it out and then they boil it so it takes the water back and then you're going blah blah blah you're eating glue almost like the yeah the silicone tip discussion it almost reminds me of like with food too when i look at something that's literally not even has no nutrient substance whatsoever and yet i want it like an idiot and i disproportionately eat so much of it that i know it's gonna make me feel sick too yeah and it's like you know gonna be like pro fucking cancer pro get fat pro everything that i don't want but it tastes makes me feel very dumb yeah pro inflammation your back hurts more you got weird neck pains after you eat a lot of pasta even focusing on if i eat a meal like that i know the rest of my day work quality wise and focusing on anything is out the window the brain fog is severe oh it's unbelievable that was one of the more interesting things about the carnivore diet when um i did that one month of january i'm gonna do it again this year as well where i just ate meat yeah only i only ate meat for a whole month my energy levels were so consistent it was really interesting that's what's made me sort of consider either i haven't done a ketogenic diet i've never done carnivore i've done keto a couple times but it was super long ago and i was never you know like doing anything entrepreneurial at the time so it was irrelevant me assessing the brain fog back then so i don't even remember what it was like but now from a cognitive aspect i notice a dramatic anytime i have a super carb dense meal the brain fog is just like another 20 added every like carb dense meal until the end of the day you're just like in a fucking haze trying to work and it's just not even like nothing productive is happening and i know guys who do carnival or keto diets you stay mentally sharp perpetually because your blood sugar is just stable you're not spiking your insulin through the roof so i've been very very tempted to try it personally just for the cognitive elements but the dramatic decrease and you lose like instantly like 10 pounds of water like out of the muscle specifically from the lack of glycogen and the performance hit you take in the gym it's very hard to build muscle when you're in keto or it's harder that sort of like yeah i've been like weighing it out in my head if i should try it or not yeah i wonder if your body adapts eventually because you said the carnivore thing hit your performance pretty hard in the gym yeah it hit my performance especially uh doing rounds in the bag like uh uh i would be okay for the first like 30 seconds i have like i feel good and strong but then there's there's like this i wonder if you could do like carnivore as your base diet and then just around the workout sessions that you're trying to get that acute glycogen saturation burn it up and get back into carnivore quick if you could do something like uh just like a cyclic dextrin like parry workout get like the glycogen you need to burn it get back into keto immediately after or close to it so you can retain the mental clarity around the workout perimeter right but then during the workout you give the food just the fuel you need carbohydrate-wise might be an approach that's worthwhile yeah it seems like that's possible and i know some guys have done that with apples and for whatever reason that combination seems to be pretty common apples and fiber like be too slow i don't know um like there's something called cyclic dextrin which is something you can you can buy it's like a carbohydrate powder that's very very light it's not like the gels that those cycles cyclists take my glucose gels i don't know exactly what those comprise it but this is like the gastric emptying of this stuff is very very fast intestinal transit to the point that it's like in and out of your system like so you have low gi stress in and out of your system quick so you could hypothetically like fuel up for the workout burn it and then be back into keto relatively quick ideally i would think might be worthwhile to try yeah because an apple i think you're going to spend way more time digesting that than because the fiber and everything yeah what if you had like apples like say if you have like an apple or two just like an hour and a half before a hard workout you'd have to experiment i guess because ultimately i'm sure you can tell a dramatic difference when you the keto adaptation period is pretty rough from what i remember like like transitioning so i think you'd tell if it was making the transition in and out difficult from like a time duration standpoint pretty quick the keto fog has nothing on the carnivore diarrhea because yeah didn't you like shit your brains over the first couple of weeks bro yeah it's wild i tom segura tried the diet as well and he sent me a text that was hilarious he goes this diarrhea is astonishing is it like the frequency all day too or is it just like when you take a shit it's liquid it's liquid but do you like have to go suddenly at random times that are inconvenient you do not trust farts you do not trust your butthole like to keep everything back like you like if you think you have to fart get to the bathroom you know but it was i didn't shit my pants i don't think i might have i don't remember i've shit my pants many times but i don't think i did it during that month but one thing that i did notice is there there were certain times that i went to the bathroom like what is happening it was just like black oil was coming out of my asshole yeah i was just like what this is so much liquid it's so crazy yeah and it would just be like get on the ball like yeah they just you hear the fluid come out like what is happening yeah but that went on for about two weeks and then after two weeks what was remarkable was when i would take a shit it was so small and it was uh it was like easy it was like dry like dry shits like they would just come out nice and clean you know and i have one of them bidet toilets where you press the button that was going to say you had that for those of you shitting yourself well i i would oftentimes go i got to get in the shower like this i wonder how many carnivore diet guys went and bought a bidet after starting bro but day's the way to go if you don't have one not a bidet day like you're a frenchman but one of them toilet seat things okay i forget what the name of the one that i have but uh for my house here in texas i got one where you even come near it it opens up and light goes off and everything and you sit down and you can press a button and the button shoots hot water up your butt it's nice how do you dry it before you put your pants back on you got to take a little toilet paper and pat it down but the thing is like it hoses your asshole off so well that's like a sniper yeah yeah not just like a mess like you got to take a fucking time no no no you could target it targeted i saw one that does the massage feature have you that's happened they're trying to just gives you a prostate massage at the same time i'm sure it puts two fingers up there does that jacket yeah next-gen toilets well this it does feel really good though that's the problem like it it's like nice it's like ah but uh efficiency though too i can imagine like sometimes you sit there and you you've got that one random one that it's like what do i need a whole roll of toilet paper to like get rid of this last bit like fuck it's also what are you doing you're just smearing the shit all over your ass yeah when you actually think about like what you're doing oh it's nasty yeah it's gross you wouldn't you wouldn't accept that any other place in your body you had shit all over your elbow you would be like i'll just wipe that down with some dry it turns out the massage function is to stimulate the rectum to help promote bowel movements how does it work there's a pulse and massage so it relaxes your sphincter it's stimulating your rectum so does it touch your rectum i don't it's a massage finger i don't that's it's these are people jacking off on the toilet it's like they're just covering it up yeah that gives you a little tickle while you're trying to and moans and then the next the google question says can bidets turn you on of course they can't everything can turn you on people get turned on by feet people are glad oh yeah yeah people are weird you over that now i was just a boy i was a young boy um no i think girls with pretty feet are hot yeah but it's not like a thing like this it was a thing though and then you got over it well it was a thing when i was in i was like 18 19 ish that a girl would like rub her feet on my dick yeah became a thing yeah but like when you have good events and then something concurrently with it your brain like ties the two together so almost like if you work out and you always listen to music then when you work out without the music it's like this fucking sucks i can't even enjoy the workout right so like after that point did it drag into every relationship moving forward or are you like well then it became uh it's like different things turn you on you know then like you'll date a girl who's got great lips and you become a lip guy or you date a girl's got a great ass to become a nas guy like i didn't even realize i liked asses until i dated a girl had a great ass i was like that is a big perk yeah that's a big it's a big difference yeah when a girl's got a great ass it's like wow that is really exciting yeah you know it's like something about i mean it doesn't and what's really crazy is white people didn't figure it out until baby got back it's like sir mr lock came along and they were like you know what that is good something happened because if you look at like white women from like the 70s and the 80s they all had flat butts yeah and they were the hottest women in the world yeah nobody cared it was wild when uh it was like a fucking shift in the universe when like uh those tight pants came out and uh like lululemon was founded in vancouver and canada and girls starting to wear the the lululemon like tight pants that show off their ass yeah and like all the pants that came thereafter the tight ones yeah fucking night and day difference like you could have a chick who's like a six out of ten and it's like oh these pants you're an eight and a half easily well it's a weird thing that that i mean it's again like the shoulder thing for guys the butt thing for girls it's a weird thing that this one body part is so significantly more attractive yeah like like great calves are like okay you know yeah yeah but a great ass is like wow yeah look at that yeah it's just genetics it's just biology right it's just like something about us is attracted to this i mean it's clearly a waste to hip ratio thing that indicates that the woman would be better at giving birth you know the ass would indicate better birthing ability well it's like can okay right more fat carrying more fat would allow her to get through her pregnancy better you know because a lot of times women lose well sometimes they gain weight but you know you have a lot of tissue that is going to be able to sustain that child while it's in the womb i mean you think about like what it was like to be a person a thousand years ago three thousand years ago four thousand when we developed all these attractions to specific body types like your odds of surviving were fucking low so you would be more attracted to someone who would bear a child that is going to make it which is that's really what it's all about yeah that makes sense that's why we see that poor girl who's the anorexic can you like yikes yeah what is that that's so crazy no yeah that makes sense yeah yeah it's uh the the human body is such a bizarre thing it's just so strange like what what we like about it and what we don't like about it and like what things matter to women no girls have like dramatically different opinions it seems on like guys universally it's like are you a tits or an ass guy and then for girls it's like do you like big biceps you like right shoulders big back big some of them like big asses and guys some of them like skinny guys they're like yeah some of them want like skater dudes yeah like little emo boys travis barker looking dudes yeah it's weird how dramatic the difference is and then some like beards some don't like beards but i always wonder it's like maybe it's like what they were attracted to when they were growing up like the same thing it's like a guy who's in the feed or for some guys it's like pantyhose you know like you meet a girl and she's independent like she's wears garters or something like that like garters are weird like why is that sexy yeah you got a rubber band that attaches your underwear to your socks like yeah what is that no yeah some of the some of the preferences for women are just like i guess it's good universally though because it means there's more chances for guys whereas for chicks it's like there's like you can kind of tell universally what's attractive on a woman from like a body composition aspect and features but then for guys it's like so many fucking options and so many preferences that more guys gonna have a chance than otherwise would with like a you know higher quality woman probably well guys have so many other weird things right like a guy could be successful that makes it more attractive yeah a guy could be funny that makes him more attractive yeah it's definitely good being a guy for sure because you've got so many more things to play with from that aspect yeah i think it's like some statistic it's like five five to ten percent of guys get like 90 of the girls or something because it's just like all of these like especially from an online dating aspect yeah it's just like disproportionately ridiculous in how successful a very small subset of guys is on the on the device on the apps um versus women they from like i don't know five out of tens all the way to ten out of ten a lot of them are like pretty much inundated with options still whereas guys it's like only the top top upper echelon have all the options and the rest get like fucking none yeah that's like the concept of the incel right remember when that one dude drove his car into a bunch of people and killed him because he was an incel yeah yeah and there was a then it became a real concern i forget uh elliott rogers i think i don't know if that was the guy maybe he shot people elliot someone it was that was his issue as well the women wouldn't have sex with him yeah he wasn't even an ugly guy yes the weird thing is when you watch the videos you could tell he just he was a psycho i yeah like the brain chemistry and just the fact that i bet he's never even tried like talking to chicks right like he probably just was at home like where why aren't they getting busy like why is it not handed to me on a silver platter yeah and he was a normal-ish looking kid yeah yeah definitely uglier guys you've had bad looking yeah especially if they're successful yeah there's way more options for men it's it's unfair for sure yeah that's why women complain that's really what the big complaint is when a woman sees uh like these unrealistic body types that's yeah because i know their value is more so based on that than anything else that is such it's unfair yeah i can't even imagine the like awareness of knowing how disproportionate my value is pace based on physical appearance and almost nothing else because like if i'm a guy seeking a high quality woman like i don't really give a shit if she's like rich and successful i don't know at all no like i would be nice i would prefer you are you know like a good cook and like can take care of shit and like help me achieve success in my endeavors and are like supportive rather than like i don't give a fuck if you're a breadwinner or not yeah that's a weird position because then people automatically assume that you're anti like having a strong woman in your life and that's not necessarily the case no it's just it's not more attractive yeah yeah your value is not propped up as a woman really if you have like a you know all these other things that guys can do to leverage yeah which is like i can imagine being would be quite frustrating for a woman who's you know driven yeah well that's the thing it's like some women feel like as they're growing up that they have to prove themselves by gaining a commensurate amount of success like that this is a woman who could stand right up there with a man but she's also hot she's also attractive like that's great but that other that first part that doesn't really i mean doesn't excite a lot of men i mean some men some men are really into like really ambitious really powerful women i guess yeah but for the most part i don't think that that's like a number one draw no not like i wouldn't give a fuck personally yeah yeah like if some chick is like has super high aspirations and wants to be like entrepreneurial and like start a business and do that i'm almost like oh like how much time is this gonna take well that see that's what women are worried about women are worried about the idea that if you're not into strong women and that you want the woman to be subservient and you want the woman to be like uh for you to be priority your life to be a priority and your success be our priority and her to be almost like uh you know she's an accessory yeah i just yeah it's not that i wouldn't want them to have their own aspirations like goals and stuff i would just think like i if i have my path i'm gonna go down and you know do certain things that i know are gonna support me and you know a family down the line like i don't necessarily i would rather see you allocating time towards something that's i don't know like aligns with my vision of where i'm going because it's like if we have two different paths entrepreneurially she's like i can't imagine you wouldn't drift apart in some capacity if you're like she's full bored on work you're full board on work like there's no like in the middle at all i don't know like yeah but for a woman if she invests a bunch of time in your success yeah and then you break up with her she's like fuck yeah that's true yeah that that's that's what motivates these big divorce settlements yeah yeah that's true yeah i don't know what the uh um that's gotta be it right i mean that's that's how they feel they're like well fuck that like she was with like who made all that money sort of she was helping him like she was with him in the relationship she assumed a sort of supportive wife position and she took care of all these other aspects of their personal life while he worked hard yeah there's definitely an argument to be made like although i think it's fucking insane to take half of somebody's shit but like the amount of efficiency you gain out of a supportive partner who's taking like the tedious work off your plate oh yeah you know like there definitely is a huge element of like your success being foundationally backed by like a good partner who's doing sure even if on paper they're not doing something that's productive from like a money producing aspect sure and then there's also the emotional support like knowing that you have someone who's rooting for you who's in a corner and then there's also like the amount of time that you save and not like going on dates and you know trying to find the one trying to be single and like also do entrepreneurial stuff fucking impossible impossible it's a full-time job being single and dating yeah because if you're dating first of all and you meet a good one she's going to want to spend a lot of time with you right she's like he really likes me we're going to go out again tonight like oh my god you're going out every night and then you're going out four nights a week and you're going out to dinners and yeah you leave the house at seven you don't come home till 11 then you're tired when you go to the gym in the morning but you're really into it because you really like her but it takes a lot of time whereas if you're married you live in the same house you come home like it saves a lot of time and you know yeah also when you're working really hard she doesn't think that you are ignoring her she thinks you're working for the both of you if you you know have your funds together tied in together yeah it's complicated shit though because again like if you're a woman and you you'd assume that sort of a traditional male female marriage wife role and you take care of the house while the guy's working and then the guy goes i'm done with this and you're like bitch i just invested 15 fucking years in your stupid life yeah now you don't want me anymore fuck it's time to get a lawyer before your you met your wife that you have relationships that like were divergent in terms of like how it aligned with your outlook of future goals or like how did you eventually end up with the partner that you deemed like best i guess well my problem is i've never had goals oh really just work yeah i just do stuff that i enjoy like i never thought like oh i want to have the number one podcast in the world i'm gonna fucking work hard i'm the number one product never thought that once never advertise this podcast never like went on other podcasts to with a specific goal promoting it yeah it never took out like video ads anywhere or anything just did it so that's the same with almost everything i've ever done like my goal as a comedian was just be a professional yeah it wasn't like i want to sell out arenas when when it came to arenas like really i could do an arena okay let's try it shit this is crazy yeah so it's just my goal was always just to do my best like do my best as a comic do my best as a podcaster and and and that has worked for me i'm not saying it should work for everybody because i think some people need like there's there's some people that are very goal oriented like they want to have a vision board they want to write all this shit down and they want to say you know by the time i'm 30 i want to have x amount of dollars in the bank and i want to have my own house and by the time i'm 40 i want to be the fucking ceo of this and be doing that and i don't i'm not that guy yeah i think there's a misconception about how like disorganized or just like i don't know people don't realize they're success successful until they're just like they are and it was just a result of their hard work cumulatively over time and it's like yeah eventually you're in this amazing position but it's not like you planned it necessarily step by step i can only speak for myself because i don't really know like first of all i'm in very weird businesses right i mean i do cage fighting commentary i do stand-up comedy and i do podcasting three things where there's no blueprint yeah nobody like cage fighting commentary first of all when i started doing it there was literally like maybe four guys had done it before me so there was no blueprint there's no one to tell me what to do i just did it yeah i just would just explain what was happening while i was happening and i felt like i had an obligation to try to explain to people like especially the ground game when it comes to jiu jitsu positions which is very technical and so i'm trying to explain and walk my way through these very intricate positions where i see a guy setting up for a very specific move and when it comes to stand-up comedy like you you just gotta like no one can tell you how to do it you just gotta do it like your way is gonna be different from that guy's way like mitch hedberg is very different from sam kinnison who's very different from chris rock everybody's different you just have to figure out what makes your perspective funny no one can teach you how to do it no one can show you how to be funny a guy can teach you how to play guitar no one can teach you how to do stand-up yeah you just gotta do it and hopefully it works and then with podcasting i mean there was radio before so it was like howard stern and opie and anthony that was like really how i got into it and then once i started doing podcasting in 2009 there was adam carolla he already had one and mark maron had one there's a few guys who had one before me but it was just like it was bullshit no one got any money from of it me corolla was the only guy that i think was making some money at the time but for me it was like there's no money in this it's just silly just doing it for fun it was a hundred percent doing it for fun and it went on like that for years where i didn't make any money we probably lost money doing it and then eventually it started making money and then it started making crazy money and then i was like whoa this is nuts but it was never at any point in time a goal right like when whenever i look at like this like we were just one spotify uh 2021 number one podcast of the year all this they they sent me some stuff was showing me like what the numbers are i'm like okay can't think about it i mean it's great wild it's crazy that it's the number one podcast in the world but it's still it's the same thing i just come in and i do it so i don't have like goals that way so i didn't like find a woman who like aligned with my goal she's just cool right so we just get along great so it works and i just do my shit and she doesn't get in the way she doesn't fuck with me and she's very supportive so it's a great relationship in that way but again i couldn't teach anybody how to meet somebody like my wife yeah i couldn't teach anybody how to meet somebody who understands how crazy i am and it gets and just works with me because other people won't work with you you know it's like relationships are just like business partnerships or even friendships like some guy who would be great friends with another guy you would think that guy's annoying as fuck and he'd never want to hang out with him yeah whereas other people be like dude fucking let's party you're excited to see him there's people for everybody in in business in relationships and friendships it's like you got to know what you like know what you like and know who you are and hopefully you get lucky and find someone that like fits with that yeah i uh yeah it's uh a lot of fish in the sea but trying to like die i don't know yeah diversifying like find the exact you know match for your exact lifestyle don't pretend you're anybody other than who you are that's a big one because that way they'll if they like you they actually like you if you're working so hard to convince someone that you're awesome but you're really kind of bullshitting eventually you're going to get exhausted and you're going to give that up and that's what a lot of women say guys do like they're in a relationship with a guy and then they know him for like a couple of months and also the guy is reveals who he really is there's definitely like a facade people i think are on their best behavior and actually totally fucking yes different than what they are for the first little bit that's what every rich single guy worries about and he's gonna get roped in he's gonna get roped in by a gold digger you know and then she's gonna go i can't believe i'm pregnant i mean i don't know how this happened i was on the pill and the guy's like fuck yeah and then she starts yelling at him i had a buddy of mine that happened too oh really oh my god he told me the moment she got pregnant it was almost like ha ha got you and he was like what like she started yelling at him telling him what to do and he's like what is this yeah and he he he was stunned and he and he just realized he goes joseph she got me she fucking got me i'm like really he goes yeah man she fucking got me like i thought she was a different person it's like who is this and then she got lawyers involved and her mom got involved it's crazy like you come over the house as her mom was there with her they're both staring at him like in a mean way and she's telling him what's gonna happen what you're gonna do and he's like what the fuck so what happened with that after got broke up and broke up and you know divorced and lost a shitload of money terrible story has a kid you know every time he goes to see the kid she's got a sour face she fucking hates him geez she got him that's a fucking and he thinks well the mom was multiple bad relationships divorced over and over again right and he thinks it's just like she grew up with this like predatory idea of what a marriage is like you can find a guy who's successful yeah and then you treat him real nice and then you work your way in and then once you got once you get pregnant and then tell this motherfucker what's up and so once she was married and when she was pregnant it was just like she just decided you know no sense in dragging this out let's just close this up right now and and take that check and now he's paying her for you know 18 years fucking horrible yeah it's not good and it's and since he makes good money it's a sizable amount of money you know and i don't believe he signed a prenup because i think he's a dummy and he'll i think he would admit that yeah yeah so it's like proportional based on what you make not just like what the kid exactly it's it's proportional based on what you're accustomed to oh so he like treated her to a certain shit or something and then maintained that life he's so wealthy he's wealthy and she lived with him and they were together for a couple of years and you know they they were together and during that time you know he was making a lot of money and they lived in a very nice house and she was married to him so then all of a sudden i wonder what uh jeff bezos wife is up to now she's balling out of control she's got 39 billion yeah she married a high school science teacher i have a whole bit about it oh really yeah it's awesome huh she's uh very philanthropic she gives a lot of money away to charities and when you got 39 billion just leave a little bit of it in the bank and it's just accumulating interest constantly yeah i'm sure she's got good investments just balling out there wearing fucking mr t gold chains and yeah mink coats everywhere i don't know it's a lot of money though man but again he probably doesn't even notice it he's still one of the richest guys that's ever lived you know he gives her 39 billion and he it doesn't even put a dent in them well me at that point isn't there like an ego thing if you're like the richest guy in the world still so maybe that like takes him down a notch from the other titans he's trying to hang with so maybe that might piss him off probably yeah isn't that funny they all have like the the race to space and then also like the net worth thing yeah like i can imagine that's like at that point you're so desensitized to everything on earth because you've been hyper exposed to like the most pinnacle level of success at that point it's like to get your next dopamine hit it's like i gotta beat fucking elon i feel like right right yeah that does happen with men right they get real competitive against other people that their their peers yeah that's such a crazy thing to get competitive when you're like you got 150 billion but he's got 190 oh fuck him yeah like i don't know if that's actually how they think but i mean like the perception from this like competing like space things you can't help but perceive that there is some sort of competitive thing around it yeah and it's like a dick measuring contest between the titans of who's rich and who can do the biggest thing the fastest did you see the video of uh jeff bezos's girlfriend meeting leonardo yeah yeah yeah everybody got people looked into that so like when people first of all she's a smoke show right she's smoking hot yeah and you know he's not the best looking guy in the world but he's like super wealthy and you know kind of fit looks pretty good now compared to what he used to look like right the before and after of him and elon oh yeah so he put this thing leo come over here i want to show you something dangerous fatal trap that's pretty funny of him that's pretty funny of him to do that um but you know when she's you know he got himself a ten you know and got divorced and does what a lot of rich guys do like look at the way she's smiling at leo though criminy all right and also leo is like standing on the stair above yeah so it's like the most demeaning picture like perception-wise for sure yeah yeah she's an alpha like a predator you look at her like jesus yeah that's some jeans son and she's not a young lady she's 50. how old is bezos he's probably the same age probably similar right how old is bezos i'm going to guess let me guess he's like my age 54 yeah i wonder how old it is before 57 i think when you're that you don't want to date a 20 year old dicaprio doesn't he's like late 40s yeah but he doesn't have any children you know i think once a man has children and once you've been through all that and your father it's like what do you date some 20 year old doesn't and someone's like the same age as your kids it seems kind of creepy yeah you know yeah if you're a 57 year old guy dating a 20 year old girl like that's what jack nicholson did right oh really yeah wasn't that thing jack nicholson he was that was his thing right he was always dating like really young girls deep into his 60s and shit yeah that's okay too maybe they like it maybe he likes it women get mad at it though oh yeah and you can't help but like question if it's legit too and that's where you bring in the uh you know the old inspector who tells you if it's a legit relationship or not imagine if it comes to the point i mean think about that right like there's an inspector that checks to see if your relationship is bonafide yeah if you want to get into the country and get married but is there one if you want to marry a guy for his money no there should be yeah there should be like a bona fide inspector there like to stop yeah if you're gonna get the divorce settlements or not based on was your intentions legitimate or not in the first place could you imagine if gold diggers were scrutinized the way immigrants are ah that's the next level position there's probably something to that man yeah there's probably something funny in there because gold diggers are it's a strange thing because there might be something in it that's fucking that's interesting look gold diggers are a viable business move yeah it's a solid business movie if you're a smoke show if you're a hot lady and you meet someone like rupert murdoch looking guy and he's worth billions of dollars i think i can fuck this guy yeah and you really can't yeah if you're a hot lady you can kind of fuck any guy yeah all you have to do is get alone with them yeah you know all you have to do is get if he's single all you do is be alone with him and if he's straight you know you could eventually you know charm your way to the point where this guy wants to fuck you and he can't believe he can yeah and then you let him and then next thing you know you know you you hang around for a few years yeah i wonder what the self-awareness of some of these like hyper successful guys are when it comes to getting disproportionately hot women they can't be good yeah like i can't imagine in their head they're like this is legit yeah i deserve it bro yeah i'm hot as fuck yeah let me let me rest my gut on your ass when that fuck you because there's some guys they're just so gross and their girls are so hot yeah i mean maybe they're attracted to the power and the money maybe they're attracted to the prestige or maybe they just don't want to work and realize they can fuck this guy yeah and they can get enormous enormous amounts of money yeah i don't have a problem with it i do i have zero problem with gold diggers i think it's funny when i see like a really hot woman like some fucking rickety old man who's barely hanging on yeah like i think it's hilarious yeah i guess i don't know i'm like what do you tell the ricky old guy like no you should only be with like old rickety old women i would say good luck bro yeah who's that oh it says true love is your gut matching her back perfectly and she's down with that look at that wow i hope that guy must be balling out of control they must yeah or maybe some women though do prefer a guy where they're hotter than the guy where the guy is not going anywhere that's a security thing yeah even if he's not like hyper successful if he's like 100 gonna stay yeah i guess there's definitely a comfort in knowing that you've got like the leveraged position do you have like specific goals like for your success like do your your podcast you're saying essentially your your youtube show you really didn't start out to do it you didn't have it in mind like this is what i'm gonna do i'm gonna do a podcast on you know mail enhancement and betterment and you know improving your life and uh this is gonna be super successful and i'm gonna be on youtube with a million followers you didn't have these goals right no those seemed unfathomable at the time when i started so that was never a goal at the time but they sort of like i do have goals and they transition but most of them are more like like when you get up in a day you have a scheduled day and those are probably like on paper they're mini goals like if you missed your workout and you wanted to get a workout you'd be like fuck i feel bad yeah you know because you didn't hit do your goal so for me i started to develop more i don't know uh i don't know kind of like uh higher tier goals from a daily like micro standpoint as things went on and became proportionately you know more i don't the stakes are higher so i would for example when i wanted to grow faster and i just saw the opportunity of what my channel was doing i went from posting once a week or something to once a day and then after that i went to twice a day and adhering to that schedule i could tell the growth was disproportionately better and the performance of things was getting better and i was also getting better at speaking becoming more fluent being able to articulate myself and things were just proportionally like escalating almost in like a dose-dependent manner of like the input relative to the output of the what results i was getting so i started to change my daily goals accordingly just knowing that the output was going to be you know this superior thing that otherwise i wouldn't have got to in nearly the same time frame or the i don't know the level at which it's become so my goals did i do have goals but it was i don't know like at this point i do have pretty tangible goals but they're more based around my companies rather than anything to do with like the channel itself like the channel the channel fuels yeah the channel fuels everything yeah yeah so we're similar in that way that we both kind of just started it we just kind of like started it in the beginning and then it just got the same thing with me i i was starting up i was doing it like once a week yeah we're doing the podcast we'd like we were doing on ustream at the time and me and my friend brian and we were watching this little chat thing and we would like answer questions on twitter and shit it was just fucking around it was all fucking around and then when the numbers started rolling in and then i got better at it too that was the other thing it's like i realized somewhere along the line like a couple years in like this is something you could actually get better at yeah get better at conversations you get better at not being annoying get better at not talking over people you get better at listening you get better at like the art of flowing the conversation and keeping it together and keeping it engaging and interesting yeah and then i realized that if i do it more days more than once a week then you'll have more people pay attention that's what i said to a lot of my comedian friends at the time they were like why do you do so many fucking podcasts i go dude you should do more too yeah the more you do the more people watch it they become addicted to it it's like yeah it becomes a part of their life and you give them content and in return they come so you do stand up you have a successful show you get advertising revenue and like i had this idea of it that a lot of other comics didn't seem to grasp because comedians a lot of us are lazy they just we don't like we're impulsive kind of wild crazy people and not the type of people that you would think are going to sit down and formulate some sort of a business plan yeah especially based on something that was never supposed to be a business in the first place yeah and then as time went on i really started saying okay now i need like a real legit professional studio now i need to legit this and then and then the big thing was like moving here like moving to texas was like yeah because it was kind of risky but i was like i think i can do it i'm like i think i'm at a place where people will come to me because they were already coming to me in l.a and i'm like and la is kind of fucked and i thought it was fucked like in may of 2020. yeah i was like i don't see this turning around i think i think this when i saw lines outside the gun stores i was like oh i got to get out of here no like you moving at the time you did is like the equivalent of some guy getting in like early on bitcoin like almost like the like i'm sure the prices here are all like jacked through yeah well once elon moved here too i moved here that was a big deal and then elon moved here like the smartest guy in the world moves here people like huh yeah maybe i should listen maybe he's on to something but i yeah the the goal thing is it's interesting when someone just concentrates on doing a good thing and that thing is something that they're genuinely interested in that's what comes through when i watch your show is that the subjects that you're talking about you obviously have a genuine interest and a deep knowledge of you really understand these things yeah i think there's a huge disparity between individuals who just post for the sake of having high viewership though too and people who feel like they're impactful and some like actual way that's improving lives yeah so like for me it's not just about because eventually those people who are just entertainers on youtube that post vlogs and just like you know girlfriend boyfriend channels that are just like you know dumb like today we're gonna go like fill up a fucking pit of balls and jump in them and like see how many i don't know let's do some random challenge that's just like try and do something as extravagant and ridiculous as possible for max amount of views like that eventually you burn out and start to question like yeah all those people eventually have some sort of tangent into something else or just burn out but for me a lot of my stuff is based on like interpreting blood work getting preventative medicine doing stuff that's actually impactful either from a performance enhancement context or like a prevention of you know deterioration of health aspect that kind of stuff i'm like highly passionate about highly interested in and those are literally the foundations of my businesses too because i have a preventative medicine practice with a bunch of doctors in it who we literally like diagnose and help people with you know like pituitary adenomas with low testosterone or individuals with autoimmune issues or this or that and for me when i put out content and i see somebody that found an undiagnosed issue that they went years without realizing was ruining their life and then were able to find it and fix it for them or something like that kind of stuff is like very rewarding from not just a monetary aspect but like it feels like you're doing something useful rather than just like producing content for the sake of content that you think will get high views kind of thing yeah so when i put out information that's i don't know extrapolating or like parsing out information from newest literature that's come out on endocrinology that could be relatable for you know hormone replacement or how to attenuate the uh you know cardiovascular implications of testosterone use and things of this nature it's like very very practical in that i'm actually you know potentially imparting information on something that's going to save years off their life improve their quality of life do a bunch of different things that are above and beyond me talking about oh is this guy now you're not you know because i love those videos yeah so like i do those because they draw in viewership too which then brings those people to see my other stuff that's actually informative i think you have a very fair assessment too you always give people an out like who knows maybe he's like a biological freak you you're not like a dick about it yeah you give people like a little room yeah you gotta be a little bit uh you know give wiggle room on stuff like that too because some of them are pretty like bold accusations sometimes you know yeah but listen man i really enjoy your channel i think uh you're an unusual guy like your your place in the youtube world the podcast world is very unusual you're very unique and so uh i'm glad we got a chance to do this no me too thanks for having me we'll do it again we'll do it again if you can get out of your fucking shit all over the country yeah yeah let's do it you escape awesome all right thank you um uh tell everybody more plates more dates on youtube um the same on instagram right what's all your social media stuff yeah so more placement dates on youtube and then my two companies are gorillamine.com for my nootropic and pre-workout formulas and supplements and then meric health if you want high quality preventative medicine spell that health.com for high quality preventive medicine hormone replacement um it's basically a platform where i get you connected with doctors that represent the most cutting edge literature and the most recent uh you know ways to optimize your health performance vitality etc all right beautiful thanks derek it was fun thanks man we'll do it again bye everybody you
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